Question for Trainers

[Jockey's Holding]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

[RoyalCrownAcres]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

I don’t really get annoyed unless people give me a bunch of horses to train, and then sell almost all of them for more than they payed me to train. Every now and then selling a horse I’ve trained is okay, I get it because not all horses live up to what we think they will. The only other thing I don’t really like is when people are annoying and constantly asking you to train when you already have them on a waitlist, or your forum very blatantly says “closed”

[Jockey's Holding]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

I don’t really get annoyed unless people give me a bunch of horses to train, and then sell almost all of them for more than they payed me to train. Every now and then selling a horse I’ve trained is okay, I get it because not all horses live up to what we think they will. The only other thing I don’t really like is when people are annoying and constantly asking you to train when you already have them on a waitlist, or your forum very blatantly says “closed”

Sadly, I must admit that I have asked a player to train a horse for me when their forum says "closed." My eyes just see "training" and nothing else. People have been pretty nice to me about it though... I'm trying to be more careful about that in the future.

[MintySugarHorse2]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

I enjoy training! I think it’s fun. However it does get annoying when people only offer to pay 10k

[BlackOak2]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

There are issues with the training system the HWO community has built, certainly.

And it has been said, most of them, anyway. Personally, I think the biggest issue is the training for sale. Once an account has been around for a year, most or all of those training skills should already be completed, so there is only the inability for the account owner to figure it out. But we also have great guides. Even if they're followed, word for word, a nearly fully skilled account can still train up a horse in under 3 years 6 months.

I am one that doesn't enjoy training, but I will occasionally fill in for emergency training. Because of that, my charges are quite a bit higher than really all of the public trainers. I'm not the only one that charges higher prices either. It does dissuade players from 'training for sale'.

An average grinder, in my opinion, should cost between 25k and 50k, the average prices of the public trainers. Because the average grinder should earn you at least that back, throughout the course of it's life. Thus it pays for it's purchase price and earns you some profit. The grinder's main use however, is earning PT and days. And this is what a grinder should be thought of. As far as a good or great grinder, although others will pay more, I still wouldn't pay much above 80k for one of that caliber. And for the same reasons.

I do my own training. The training I do, however, is a test-training. I train up the horse to test them in competitions to see where their competition genes may have fallen and especially their heart. Although, when I'm able to resurrect my leopard tarpans project, I'll likely out-source my training for them. I'll need to find which horse (or hopefully horses, plural) has the competition heart, so I can utilize that as a heavy breeder into the rest of the herd.

The other issues I've heard from public trainers is horses that don't get picked up on time; owners that constantly ping about getting horses trained (RoyalCrownAcres made specific note of this already); the occasional owner that begs for an upgraded slot or cheaper price; and also owners that don't fall under certain conditions that still try to get them (i.e. a new account getting newbie pricing when the account owner has another older account).

The last thing I've noticed that causes a large issue with our public trainers is backlog. When a trainer goes public, they're inundated with requests and many of them, because they're public, feel obligated at least in some part, to accept all the requests. This can sour our trainers to training, at least for the public, post haste.

Well, that's my insight and personal opinion.

[Elaina Brewster]

Hi! I just wanted to thank all of our trainers out there (without you, I would not be able to race my Tbs until they were almost 10 years old!), but I also have a question for you. Do you ever get irritated with people like me, who seem to come to you every month with a whole new slew of horses to train? Does training ever get old? For me, if a horse does not have incredible stats, or I am using it to create another breed, I generally just train the horse myself and I enjoy it. I don't have a formula though (once again, because I don't have many training skills, and if I am using the horse just to create a new breed, why bother?) And it does save me buying a grinder (which gets very expensive). I mean, when I get the breed I want, usually my horse is so well trained I can just grind it out or save it for when I want to create the breed again. And they often can compete in level 10 shows while consistently winning. Anyway, do you guys actually enjoy training or do people like me irritate you?

-Jockey

Actually I do enjoy training, what bothers me (ultimately why I quit publically training), is people who cannot be bother to read or follow directions on my training thread.