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What color?

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Breeding age:
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Now:
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I think it's:
Gold Champagne /w Tiger Eye + Sotty
BUT! Why was he so pink? What has lightened it to old age?
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Re: What color?

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Please tell me, why does the horse discolour?
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Re: What color?

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GrayGray wrote:Please tell me, why does the horse discolour?
So with your horse, you have two 'discolorations' at work.
One is from the champagne gene.
Champagne is a gene that causes the horse's color to bleach with age. The older it gets, the more bleached-out the color becomes (lightens with age).
The other one is sooty. Sooty is, in my opinion, the reason why the mane and tail have both lost their rich color. And it's also responsible for the darkening of the neck, the forehead and likely the entire topline of this horse. Probably also the lower legs as well.
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Re: What color?

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BlackOak2 wrote:
GrayGray wrote:Please tell me, why does the horse discolour?
So with your horse, you have two 'discolorations' at work.
One is from the champagne gene.
Champagne is a gene that causes the horse's color to bleach with age. The older it gets, the more bleached-out the color becomes (lightens with age).
The other one is sooty. Sooty is, in my opinion, the reason why the mane and tail have both lost their rich color. And it's also responsible for the darkening of the neck, the forehead and likely the entire topline of this horse. Probably also the lower legs as well.
It's definitely not the darkening that affects it. I'm sure. Why? - Recently there was a theme with a horse, which was also golden champagne.... - it also faded to old age. They argue with me that Champagne does not fade. Please prove to me that this is so, I just can not give an explanation to the players who argue with me. I was sure that only you would answer me )) I've waiting for this )
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Re: What color?

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BlackOak2 wrote:...
I just got tired of arguing, so I posted this topic. I'm sure that Champagne on red, - fades. But everyone tells me otherwise.
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Re: What color?

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BlackOak2 wrote:...
By the way, why in this case, the classic champagne does not fade?
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Re: What color?

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GrayGray wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:...
By the way, why in this case, the classic champagne does not fade?
:D Sometimes knowing you're right but not being able to prove it is worse than having to face when you're wrong.

Champagne DOES lighten with age. I forgot that myself some time ago and had to ask the question. So it sticks in my head. It SHOULD be in Totina's guide that it does... let me see if it is.
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And yes, it actually states:
All champagne colors will become lighter with age.
I don't know whether on black it becomes lighter or not. I've never seen it or studied it. The difference might be so minimal that it can only be seen if one were to click on each gallery image in succession. I would say that it does NOT lighten the black coat. But I could be wrong with this.

Champagne on every other color however, does lighten and at a fairly drastic rate. There could also be (though I don't know for certain) a degree of lightening gene at work as well. Some may have a barely-lightening gene that will only fade the coat a little bit with age while others might have a much more expressive lightening gene that washes out the base coat until it's a barely-there style.

I had a really unique champagne somewhere that confused me for awhile... let me see if I can find it.
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Well, I can't find it.

Just when I gave up, I found it. :lol:




This horse has a static-sooty (one that comes on and doesn't change). But it's similar to yours. If you go through the gallery images, you'll also notice that he lightened with age as well. Took me forever to settle on what he was (color) and still I question if I'm right. But he's not a coat glitch. He is a red-base.
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Re: What color?

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BlackOak2 wrote:He is a red-base.
Thank you so much! Yes, I see that your horse is the same color, only it has a slightly different zonal darkening. I hope that your arguments will be enough to convince my friends. I even thought it was bronze, or varnish roan. but no, it's definitely not them, I compared them, they give a completely different result.

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By the way, what can you say about zonal darkening with apples?

Is it not the influence of the silver gene? I just realized that zonal darkening in the game exists in more than four types! (WOW)
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Re: What color?

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BlackOak2 wrote: :D Sometimes knowing you're right but not being able to prove it is worse than having to face when you're wrong.
Oh, if you only knew how often I come across this, and how tired I am of it )))))

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