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LexiLouLou Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:35 pm Posts: 7

I can't produce new breeds!

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My ultimate goal is to breed a spotted Knabstrupper so I'm starting from the beginning with horses from the adoption center. I have two Przewalski Horse x Tarpans that I'm trying to breed with a Tarpan to create a Mongolian, but I've bred both of these horses probably 10 times and I have never gotten one! I keep getting a part Tarpan but never a full Mongolian. Am I doing something wrong? I can't figure it out! Also I've bred my mares to several different studs to see if they would make a difference but still no Mongolians. :cry:
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LexiLouLou Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:35 pm Posts: 7

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Ok update… Literally right after I wrote this I clicked to go to a new day and one of my mares FINALLY gave birth to a Mongolian :D But if anyone could give any advice to make this process easier that would be greatly appreciated!
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Rodeo_Ace Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:29 pm Posts: 943

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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I'm breeding Clydesdales and found I had the same problem for a while. The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed. I have found that 3 stars does work, eventually you will get the new breed, but 4 stars is really what you want. So I have a mare marked 4* Clydesdale - she is a Friesian x Shire mix - and she (mixed to the right 4* stallion) produced a Clydesdale her second foaling. But I also have a 3* mare and it took her five times till she produced what a Clydesdale. Long story short look at those stars, depending on how many stars they have for the new breed is how you can see (about) how long it will take them to produce what you want.


Just in case you don't know: you have to buy the book in the book shop for the breed your looking to create.
After you purchase the book:
--> Click on the horse's page
--> In the bottom bar(below the horses' hooves) click on "breeding"
--> and in the breeding link click on "Evaluation" if you purchased the book you can have the horse evaluated for the new breed this way.
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LexiLouLou Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:35 pm Posts: 7

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Rodeo_Ace wrote:I'm breeding Clydesdales and found I had the same problem for a while. The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed. I have found that 3 stars does work, eventually you will get the new breed, but 4 stars is really what you want. So I have a mare marked 4* Clydesdale - she is a Friesian x Shire mix - and she (mixed to the right 4* stallion) produced a Clydesdale her second foaling. But I also have a 3* mare and it took her five times till she produced what a Clydesdale. Long story short look at those stars, depending on how many stars they have for the new breed is how you can see (about) how long it will take them to produce what you want.


Just in case you don't know: you have to buy the book in the book shop for the breed your looking to create.
After you purchase the book:
--> Click on the horse's page
--> In the bottom bar(below the horses' hooves) click on "breeding"
--> and in the breeding link click on "Evaluation" if you purchased the book you can have the horse evaluated for the new breed this way.
Thank you! I will buy books and try that!
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Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Rodeo_Ace wrote:The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed.
No, they don't. If you have two horses at the opposite ends of the spectrum, you may be able to successfully cross them and get the breed you want. It is usually easier with three or four stars, but sometimes even that doesn't help.
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LexiLouLou Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:35 pm Posts: 7

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Argent II wrote:
Rodeo_Ace wrote:The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed.
No, they don't. If you have two horses at the opposite ends of the spectrum, you may be able to successfully cross them and get the breed you want. It is usually easier with three or four stars, but sometimes even that doesn't help.
Ok I'll keep that in mind! Thanks!
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Rodeo_Ace Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:29 pm Posts: 943

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Argent II wrote:
Rodeo_Ace wrote:The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed.
No, they don't. If you have two horses at the opposite ends of the spectrum, you may be able to successfully cross them and get the breed you want. It is usually easier with three or four stars, but sometimes even that doesn't help.
Maybe it's just me then, I never was able to get the breed I wanted with horses less than 3*. I can't even count how many horses I used and times I tried. Eventually I just started breeding for the 3-4* horses. It's good to know though! I have a 2* with a really good breeding report I could mix in.
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Rodeo_Ace Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:29 pm Posts: 943

Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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LexiLouLou wrote:
Rodeo_Ace wrote:I'm breeding Clydesdales and found I had the same problem for a while. The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed. I have found that 3 stars does work, eventually you will get the new breed, but 4 stars is really what you want. So I have a mare marked 4* Clydesdale - she is a Friesian x Shire mix - and she (mixed to the right 4* stallion) produced a Clydesdale her second foaling. But I also have a 3* mare and it took her five times till she produced what a Clydesdale. Long story short look at those stars, depending on how many stars they have for the new breed is how you can see (about) how long it will take them to produce what you want.


Just in case you don't know: you have to buy the book in the book shop for the breed your looking to create.
After you purchase the book:
--> Click on the horse's page
--> In the bottom bar(below the horses' hooves) click on "breeding"
--> and in the breeding link click on "Evaluation" if you purchased the book you can have the horse evaluated for the new breed this way.
Thank you! I will buy books and try that!
I'm glad I could help some. I'm still learning myself, but definitely go the book rout. It's kept me from buying some not so good horses!

Argent has been playing this game for a long time, I do my best to pay attention whenever she posts something. She knows what she is talking about, so take her word over mine with the stars count. ;)
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Re: I can't produce new breeds!

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Argent II wrote:
Rodeo_Ace wrote:The animals you combining to produce the new breed MUST have good markings for that breed.
No, they don't. If you have two horses at the opposite ends of the spectrum, you may be able to successfully cross them and get the breed you want. It is usually easier with three or four stars, but sometimes even that doesn't help.
Exactly, it's the combination that matters. Just keep in mind if one horse is too high in something you'd ideally want the other horse low in whatever that is.

But of course if they are too far removed from the ideal then there probably isn't anything to can pair them with to get the breed you want. A horse might have no stars for the breed you want but when you look at the evaluation they aren't actually that far off

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