Entry Limit For All Shows 5 Per Player

[Calcifer]

Theres been an abundance of argument about comps and cheating and entries. Here’s the thought. I can enter 20 horses in some but only 1 in others?
Lets be real. This game doesn’t have 100% accurate colour genetics, theres no geldings, my 35yr old mare is pregnant. Saying in real life a owner can’t run more than 1 horse in a racing is not a valid argument.

I support each player. Not per account.Per Player. Maybe only being able to comp off 1 account. Being able to enter up to 5 horses in any competitions.

Competitions need 5 entries to run. Having the limit of 5 would ensure no more shows taking days or weeks to run.

[Sawd10]

Support.

[Calcifer]

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This would be a viable solution to your post?

[BlackOak2]

I cannot support or disagree.
There is a problem with our competitions right now. Whenever our competition overhaul comes through, it may fix all of our current problems.
But I also don't know what would be an acceptable stop-gap.

Allow 'cheating' to get around limits would offer the habit of doing so and hence then the rule would simply be something to be laughed at.
Changing the limits, even temporarily might not be such an easy thing to do. Game mechanics for such a thing might break a portion of the game. Or not.

In the grand scheme of things, trying to get around the competition limits, in my opinion, pales in contest to some other current issues. Such as the training update and the vet update. If we had a quicker way to train our horses and had the ability to geld and sterilize, more players may be willing to train up, sell horses and enter into our competitions. At that point in time, then I would say that our competitions need an overhaul.

Things can change, but this is my opinion currently.

[Jewels65]

Calcifer

Theres been an abundance of argument about comps and cheating and entries. Here’s the thought. I can enter 20 horses in some but only 1 in others?
Lets be real. This game doesn’t have 100% accurate colour genetics, theres no geldings, my 35yr old mare is pregnant. Saying in real life a owner can’t run more than 1 horse in a racing is not a valid argument.

I support each player. Not per account.Per Player. Maybe only being able to comp off 1 account. Being able to enter up to 5 horses in any competitions.

Competitions need 5 entries to run. Having the limit of 5 would ensure no more shows taking days or weeks to run.

I totally agree with you that this game is highly unrealistic and that the sticking point of one racer per competition because you can only ride one horse at a time is kind of silly, in light of everything else. It also doesn't make sense if the horse is running on another account because it's a different owner/jockey.

And how can you tell? Just because I bred a horse doesn't mean I own it on another account. For example, I recently sold one of my exceptional horses to another player. If that player runs the horse, am I going to get in trouble? What if my husband runs the horse? He plays now and again. What if I, using my husband account, press the enter competition button instead of him but with his permission. Or what if I sold him the horse and he's racing it for himself? How is anyone going to know the circumstances?

The rule as it stands is not enforceable.

Perhaps if we could create private competitions that don't award "champing points" and allow us to enter as many of our own horses as we want, and it would keep a record of the race just as the comps do now, that might be the answer. Testing a horse without using competitions ages the horse, takes FOREVER, and you often miss the results because local shows take so long to display. My horses are usually at least five before I've managed to finish testing/training/testing. Private competitions is the way to go in my book.

I have to agree with BlackOak about faster training. My training is pretty much maxed out but it still takes two years to fully train a horse. Add that to the two years it takes to test their ability before and after training, it's just too much work. I know I am currently avoiding testing a whole slew of yearlings and a whole barn full of white, feathered thoroughbred mares, just because it is so time-consuming and tedious. Hence I am avoiding even playing the game! And that is not good for HWO's bottom line because I am also not spending any money on it!

[BlackOak2]

I could get on board with a private competitions section. No making money, no earning points, no earning titles strictly 'real-competition' test results with nothing else. Training Shows; I think that's what they're generally named. Not acceptable as point-earners in most circuits (racing, western, english, etc, at least none of the ones I've heard about), but often (at least the ones I attended) officially judged just as if it was a real show or competition that earns real points.

But, I do have an issue with this. I'd prefer the training show results to be separated from the regular competition results.
So if such a thing as training shows are added to the game, I want these results to not be intermixed with the others. I don't know how I'd feel about them being open for everybody to enter though. Seeing as they'd be strictly testing shows, I don't think I have a problem limiting them, I mean, allowing anybody to enter at all. In a training show, anybody could. The only use for them would be testing. There would be no prestige, no titles, no points, no money. No entry fee either.
I do wonder if and how much this would take away from our usual competitions? The quality of competition should definitely go up, but how many fewer competitors might there be?

As I consider this option further, I really like the thought of training shows. But I don't know how viable that would be.

[Tenacious Equine]

I could get on board with a private competitions section. No making money, no earning points, no earning titles strictly 'real-competition' test results with nothing else. Training Shows; I think that's what they're generally named.

Schooling shows! Yes! That's an amazing idea!
I think that schooling shows should only have two levels: one for trained horses and one for untrained foals. It makes no sense to have further level disparities, and if you have one level that you can just enter untrained foals in, it can also give you a pretty good grasp of what are good starter scores.
Also maybe once a horse has been entered into normal competitions in one discipline they can no longer enter schooling shows for that discipline?
I also think that the shows should be run frequently-perhaps hourly- by the game, instead of being player-created. They should be able to run even without having a full five horses entered. There should be a static number of competitions per discipline; perhaps 15 or 20 at a time?
Instead of displaying WPS and points for these competitions, there could be a section on the horse's profile that displays their best score (or their average score) for the competitions entered as a foal and a separate score for competitions entered as a trained horse, along with the number of competitions entered. Perhaps a separate tab in the horse profile?

[TallPinesTraining]

Yes! I support 1000% the idea of Schooling/Training Shows.
Even if it was just an option to have on our own farm to compete our own horses against each other.

[TallPinesTraining]

I could get on board with a private competitions section. No making money, no earning points, no earning titles strictly 'real-competition' test results with nothing else. Training Shows; I think that's what they're generally named.

Schooling shows! Yes! That's an amazing idea!
I think that schooling shows should only have two levels: one for trained horses and one for untrained foals. It makes no sense to have further level disparities, and if you have one level that you can just enter untrained foals in, it can also give you a pretty good grasp of what are good starter scores.
Also maybe once a horse has been entered into normal competitions in one discipline they can no longer enter schooling shows for that discipline?
I also think that the shows should be run frequently-perhaps hourly- by the game, instead of being player-created. They should be able to run even without having a full five horses entered. There should be a static number of competitions per discipline; perhaps 15 or 20 at a time?
Instead of displaying WPS and points for these competitions, there could be a section on the horse's profile that displays their best score (or their average score) for the competitions entered as a foal and a separate score for competitions entered as a trained horse, along with the number of competitions entered. Perhaps a separate tab in the horse profile?

Agree 100%

[TallPinesTraining]

I could get on board with a private competitions section. No making money, no earning points, no earning titles strictly 'real-competition' test results with nothing else. Training Shows; I think that's what they're generally named. Not acceptable as point-earners in most circuits (racing, western, english, etc, at least none of the ones I've heard about), but often (at least the ones I attended) officially judged just as if it was a real show or competition that earns real points.

But, I do have an issue with this. I'd prefer the training show results to be separated from the regular competition results.
So if such a thing as training shows are added to the game, I want these results to not be intermixed with the others. I don't know how I'd feel about them being open for everybody to enter though. Seeing as they'd be strictly testing shows, I don't think I have a problem limiting them, I mean, allowing anybody to enter at all. In a training show, anybody could. The only use for them would be testing. There would be no prestige, no titles, no points, no money. No entry fee either.
I do wonder if and how much this would take away from our usual competitions? The quality of competition should definitely go up, but how many fewer competitors might there be?

As I consider this option further, I really like the thought of training shows. But I don't know how viable that would be.

Agree 100% would love to see Training/Schooling shows where we could easily test our horses.
This would be great to have available on our own individual farms.
If open to the public I suggest they be free to enter for the person posting the event but have an entry fee for any outside horses that enter.