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Double Cream or Cream Pearl?

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This is Creamy Dreamy, she is from a long line of mares exactly like her. What colour is she?
My thoughts are that she has agouti (A / bay) as well as the red gene (E / black). I think that she could be either Perlino (Double cream on top of Bay), or she is more like an (i'm making up terms here) apricot perlino, where she has one cream gene and one pearl gene on a bay base. What are everyone's thoughts? Does anyone know for sure?

(Gosh i can't wait for genetic testing!)

N4 Creamy Dreamy



And a few other mares:


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Re: Double Cream or Cream Pearl?

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Neon4 wrote:
For reference: Apricot is double pearl on chestnut. Cream/pearl on bay is Buckskin Pearl.

As for your mare: It's very hard to say. Triple dilutes often come out looking almost identical even if they are different. That being said, we know for certain that the grand-dam is cream/pearl as her sire has visible cream while her dam's only visible dilution is silver. That means she got pearl from her mother. Her daughter, your mare's dam, is also a cream/pearl. Rather than seeing this strictly through parentage we can check her offspring to verify her genetics. Her sire had visible cream, so we know she got cream from him. Through her foals we know that she inherited her mother's pearl because she has two foals without visible cream (the mealy bay and the gold champagne).

As your girl has no offspring we cannot look to them for insight into her genetics. We know she has a cream as her sire is a palomino and therefore can only offer her the cream gene. Then it's a coin flip of whether she got a cream or a pearl from mom. She's similar enough to the other two that it's probably a safe bet she's a cream/pearl but the only way to know with absolute certainty would be to have her pop a foal with no visible dilutions. The easiest way to do this would be to breed her to an undiluted stud and see what she throws.
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Neon4 Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:24 am Posts: 172

Re: Double Cream or Cream Pearl?

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Silverine wrote:
Neon4 wrote:
For reference: Apricot is double pearl on chestnut. Cream/pearl on bay is Buckskin Pearl.

As for your mare: It's very hard to say. Triple dilutes often come out looking almost identical even if they are different. That being said, we know for certain that the grand-dam is cream/pearl as her sire has visible cream while her dam's only visible dilution is silver. That means she got pearl from her mother. Her daughter, your mare's dam, is also a cream/pearl. Rather than seeing this strictly through parentage we can check her offspring to verify her genetics. Her sire had visible cream, so we know she got cream from him. Through her foals we know that she inherited her mother's pearl because she has two foals without visible cream (the mealy bay and the gold champagne).

As your girl has no offspring we cannot look to them for insight into her genetics. We know she has a cream as her sire is a palomino and therefore can only offer her the cream gene. Then it's a coin flip of whether she got a cream or a pearl from mom. She's similar enough to the other two that it's probably a safe bet she's a cream/pearl but the only way to know with absolute certainty would be to have her pop a foal with no visible dilutions. The easiest way to do this would be to breed her to an undiluted stud and see what she throws.

Thank you :D

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