Gelding Pricing (-Closed Topic-)

[Sawd10]

Hello.
So I was just thinking "I can't wait for Geldings to come out!". I was looking at come of my colts that I'd like to geld one day, and I thought "How's Gelding going to work?"
This is what I thought would be good....
Maybe Geldings could cost 15-25 Pony Tokens. I know at first sight you're probably thinking "Wow, Sawd10. That's so stupid why would I spend so many on that when I could get premium or decorations or tack!"
But think about it: If you have a grinder, it'll be easy enough to get that much Pony Tokens. Pony Tokens are the 'Diamonds' of this game. So if Gelding just cost some money, there'd probably be a million Geldings flying around the world. That way I feel that it'll kind of.... subdue the amount of players wanting to Geld? (Or subdue the players that are just gelding for no reason because it costs money). I also believe it'll bring some 'worth' to Geldings and buying a Gelded horse. Also its nice to save up for something, you know? But also it'll hold people back and they won't mass produce Geldings.
Let me know what you think.

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[Thundering Horses 2]

Hello.
So I was just thinking "I can't wait for Geldings to come out!". I was looking at come of my colts that I'd like to geld one day, and I thought "How's Gelding going to work?"
This is what I thought would be good....
Maybe Geldings could cost 15-25 Pony Tokens. I know at first sight you're probably thinking "Wow, Sawd10. That's so stupid why would I spend so many on that when I could get premium or decorations or tack!"
But think about it: If you have a grinder, it'll be easy enough to get that much Pony Tokens. Pony Tokens are the 'Diamonds' of this game. So if Gelding just cost some money, there'd probably be a million Geldings flying around the world. That way I feel that it'll kind of.... subdue the amount of players wanting to Geld? (Or subdue the players that are just gelding for no reason because it costs money). I also believe it'll bring some 'worth' to Geldings and buying a Gelded horse. Also its nice to save up for something, you know? But also it'll hold people back and they won't mass produce Geldings.
Let me know what you think.

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Or a BIG sum of money?!

[Sawd10]

Hello.
So I was just thinking "I can't wait for Geldings to come out!". I was looking at come of my colts that I'd like to geld one day, and I thought "How's Gelding going to work?"
This is what I thought would be good....
Maybe Geldings could cost 15-25 Pony Tokens. I know at first sight you're probably thinking "Wow, Sawd10. That's so stupid why would I spend so many on that when I could get premium or decorations or tack!"
But think about it: If you have a grinder, it'll be easy enough to get that much Pony Tokens. Pony Tokens are the 'Diamonds' of this game. So if Gelding just cost some money, there'd probably be a million Geldings flying around the world. That way I feel that it'll kind of.... subdue the amount of players wanting to Geld? (Or subdue the players that are just gelding for no reason because it costs money). I also believe it'll bring some 'worth' to Geldings and buying a Gelded horse. Also its nice to save up for something, you know? But also it'll hold people back and they won't mass produce Geldings.
Let me know what you think.


Or a BIG sum of money?!

I guess... but not everyone has access to the forums, which can sometimes limit money.
I still think Pony Tokens, but for sure I wouldn't want Geldings to be free.

[Thundering Horses 2]

I guess... but not everyone has access to the forums, which can sometimes limit money.
I still think Pony Tokens, but for sure I wouldn't want Geldings to be free.

NO not at all

[LucentWings]

Hello.
So I was just thinking "I can't wait for Geldings to come out!". I was looking at come of my colts that I'd like to geld one day, and I thought "How's Gelding going to work?"
This is what I thought would be good....
Maybe Geldings could cost 15-25 Pony Tokens. I know at first sight you're probably thinking "Wow, Sawd10. That's so stupid why would I spend so many on that when I could get premium or decorations or tack!"
But think about it: If you have a grinder, it'll be easy enough to get that much Pony Tokens. Pony Tokens are the 'Diamonds' of this game. So if Gelding just cost some money, there'd probably be a million Geldings flying around the world. That way I feel that it'll kind of.... subdue the amount of players wanting to Geld? (Or subdue the players that are just gelding for no reason because it costs money). I also believe it'll bring some 'worth' to Geldings and buying a Gelded horse. Also its nice to save up for something, you know? But also it'll hold people back and they won't mass produce Geldings.
Let me know what you think.

Or a BIG sum of money?!

I like this idea the most as a PT cost would make me unable to geld any horses due to me not having any PT.

[Sawd10]

Or a BIG sum of money?!

I like this idea the most as a PT cost would make me unable to geld any horses due to me not having any PT.

Get a grinder and save your PT.
It's hard, I guess. But then it would subdue the amount of players rushing to get Geldings and make the players work to Geld.

[horse_lover_232]

I agree with PT. It seems like everyone wants geldings and so most studs would turn into Geldings.

[Silverine]

I disagree with this.

In real life, it is much more common to geld a colt than to leave him as a stallion. In most responsible situations, a colt has to prove he is worth breeding before anyone even considers leaving him a stud.

HWO has an over-abundance of stallions. If a player produces a colt that is sub-par to their breeding goals, but could still potentially be a decent show horse, they have no options that would enable them to sell that horse or give it away (say as a grinder) while still ensuring that his genes don't enter the general population. This leads to a lot of colts that could potentially be useful to new players as starter horses being rehomed.

I do believe that gelding should cost game money. However, the price for the operation should be similar to what it would cost to geld a horse in real life. Money on HWO is easier to obtain that in real life, so the price could be increased accordingly. Price should also increase with age, as it would in real-life. (It is much riskier and more expensive to geld a 7-year-old than it is to geld a 6-month-old.)

I do not believe that gelding should cost PT. Though geldings are supposed to earn a boost to their competition abilities I do not think it would be fair to charge a player PT to receive this bonus. That is too much like adding a "pay-to-win" feature, which this game does its best to avoid.

Also, to those making the point that the addition of geldings would decrease the available studs - please take into consideration that there are a considerable amount more studs available than are actually used. Keeping gelding accessible to all would decrease the number of sub-par stallions that must currently be waded through when browsing the offerings. It would also increase the value of the stallions that remain.

[BlackOak2]

I also vote against PT for gelding.

Though I think there are some legitimate and valid reasons to the suggestion, offering the option to anybody is a much better option then restricting it to something that is much more difficult to earn.

We could 'NEED' geldings, but other things that might cost PT, like wearables, we don't really 'NEED' and even at that point, there are money options for the low-on-PT-players... and those that can only grind for PT (like me).

Although, I do like the idea of the increasing price of age just like in real life. It is an acceptable consideration.

And I am still looking forward to the training upgrade...

[Abbih]

I'm against PT for geldings. Geldings would be good in the game. There are a lot of subpar studs that shouldn't be studs. They are not good enough to better the breed, but they could be good enough to use as a grinder or show horse. Having geldings (especially easily assessable) would help eliminate the "lesser" horses being bred. IRL, we leave the best horses studs and cut the rest. I would agree that there should be a price increase as age increases. Not by an insane amount. Personally, IRL, I don't cut my colts until they are 2 or 3 (depends on the horse) unless the horse is super studdy. I like the thicker build that waiting gives them. They are still young enough that it isn't as risky as cutting a 15-year-old stud. Gelding should be a money expense, not a PT. Good studs won't become geldings, just poor/lesser quality ones.