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What color is this Tarpan stallion?

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What color is he?
I've tried looking at "horse color posts" but I'm confused about it all, when it comes to actually deciding myself what color a horse is :/

Also, does anyone have tips for me for in the future when i have to decide a horse's color? I would prefer not asking people everytime, and learn myself if I can :)

Here he is:
Ejger
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Re: What color is this Tarpan stallion?

Post by Silverine »

CrescentMoonStables wrote:What color is he?
I've tried looking at "horse color posts" but I'm confused about it all, when it comes to actually deciding myself what color a horse is :/

Also, does anyone have tips for me for in the future when i have to decide a horse's color? I would prefer not asking people everytime, and learn myself if I can :)

Here he is:
Ejger
At his very base he is a bay dun. On top of that he has an appaloosa blanket, snowflakes, and varnish. The varnish is what's making him appear kind of washed out and cloudy.

Looking more closely at him, you can tell he has dun because of the stripes on his legs, the light spots on his ankles, and his face mask. You can tell he is bay-based because of his black legs but brown body. Usually his mane and tail would be black as well, but they have turned gray from the appaloosa varnish mentioned before.
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Re: What color is this Tarpan stallion?

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CrescentMoonStables wrote:...
This will be a quick, crash course for you. :D

If you work off of AC horses (those that come straight from the AC), you can use the colors by ancient breed guide to help narrow down what you're looking at.

http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... =13&t=2653

The best way to tackle horse colors, is to first familiarize yourself with base colors.

Black & Chestnut.

Agouti works on top of black and under chestnut.
Agouti is Wild Bay, Bay and Brown (in that order).

Everything else are essentially coat modifiers (with one or two exceptions and arguments offered, but anyway).

Once you figured out the base coat...
Black is only ever black, if it's not black, then there is a modifier at work, or it's simple not black.
Chestnut is only ever chestnut, but unlike black, chestnut is recessive and can't show up unless two of the alleles are present.

Agouti only appears when paired OVER black, but hides UNDER chestnut.
Wild Bay appears over Bay and Brown
Bay appears over Brown
Brown only appears when it's paired with itself or paired with no agouti (agouti negative and brown agouti)

The graying gene offers a hint when a newborn shows an adult coat. It usually begins appearing as gray-goggles at 6 months, but can appear differently at different ages as well.

Single Cream causes palomino and buckskin (that would be chestnut and aguoti-bay respectively).
Pearl is recessive but at the same locus (same spot) as cream, so we can't have two creams and two pearls on a single horse, it is either, double cream, double pearl OR cream and pearl.
Both of these dilutes (cream and pearl) causes a drastic lightening of the body. The difference between a double cream and a double pearl is that one has pink skin and BLUE eyes (cream) and the other has pink skin and DARK eyes (pearl). Cream and pearl offers blue eyes, so that's a bit difficult to define which one it is.

Champagne reveals the single tiger eye gene (double tiger must be present to express when on a non-champagne horse). Tiger eye causes GREEN shades, not blue. But these shades can move from the hazel-blue spectrum, all the way to Caribbean green spectrum.
Champagne is likely one of the easiest to spot because it will ALWAYS have freckles. Although double and triple dilutes get quite washed out.

A double dilute is a combination of any two of the three main dilutions genes. On HWO, these main dilutes are generally accepted to be cream, pearl and champagne. So a double cream can be a double dilute as can a champagne and cream. Technically speaking, even a champagne and pearl can be a double dilute, though because pearl won't expressed when alone (no cream gene and no second pearl gene), they're generally not described as a double dilute.

A triple dilute is often also referred to as a pseudo-white, because the combination of any three of the main dilutes, will cause the horse's coat to appear white in color. A pseudo-white generally also carries silver. (A triple dilute is NOT generally a double champagne plus another dilute, because two champagne genes don't express differently than just one champagne gene).

Silver... Silver expresses differently on the base coat colors. When silver pairs with black, it causes a gray body-coat usually paired with dapples. When paired with chestnut, it remains hidden (the same process that flaxen hides on other coat colors but reveals on chestnut). When paired with agouti, it displays as a silvery mane and tail.

Dun takes the base color of a coat and creates a washed-out version of it. This (along with many of these other genes) can be cryptic (relatively unseen, but passes it on to offspring). Black turns gray (a bit like the silver on black), brown also turns gray, bay gets washed out and chestnut turns a peach-like color.

Pangare is like dun where it washes out the coat color, but unlike dun which is full-body, pangare has stages where it can only barely color the flank and nose, or it can reach all the way up almost to the backbone, with generally an increasing intensity of washing out the closer you move down on the horse. When paired with dun (or sometimes even alone, this gene can create pseudo-creams (pseudo-buckskin or palomino).

Roan is fairly easy. Roan is described as white hairs interspersed throughout the base coat of a horse. It is visible at birth and can be lightly expressed or very strong.

There is also:
Sooty
Metallic
Appaloosa
Tobiano

Sooty is the darkening of the body either progressive or static. Sooty creates pseudo-blacks.
Metallic looks a lot like the muscle sheen after training, but can also be seen on the face (muscle sheen doesn't appear on the face)
Appaloosa is Lp and is varnish, spots and snowflakes
And finally Tobiano is any white marks our horses have, including socks, stars and paint patterns. It is currently the only markings/paint that is released in the game. And also, a 'true white' horse that is NOT a triple dilute, is a full-body tobiano. Though the phrase 'true white' is not generally used for them, the phrase 'whole tobiano' is generally offered instead.

Thus ends the crash course. :mrgreen:
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