When is Gelding planned to come?

[Sawd10]

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Hello.
So sorry if this sounds pushy, it is NOT meant to be that way.
When is gelding supposed to come out? (if you guys know when). Because I am SUPER protective about my lines & want to sell some horses but can't because there is no telling what people will do to it! I can't wait for this to come out and so I am really excited, but not sure when to expect it? Thank you so much for your time.
1 of thousands of players,
Sawd10

[Tom]

Hello! Geldings are low on the list at the moment. Sorry but there are other things we are working on first.

[Sawd10]

Hello! Geldings are low on the list at the moment. Sorry but there are other things we are working on first.

Ah, I see.
No problem! I understand, plus, it must be hard running this game because it's so good. No worries, thank you!

[Honeybunny#2]

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Hello.
So sorry if this sounds pushy, it is NOT meant to be that way.
When is gelding supposed to come out? (if you guys know when). Because I am SUPER protective about my lines & want to sell some horses but can't because there is no telling what people will do to it! I can't wait for this to come out and so I am really excited, but not sure when to expect it? Thank you so much for your time.
1 of thousands of players,
Sawd10

Hey! As much I somewhat have a IRL gripe with people and the whole "Geldings are safer" thing I have to agree I'm looking forward to selling some show horses that I don't want bred like my elite lines only the best for breeding! But one thing I hope can be possible is a reverse command... I know it doesn't happen IRL but a way to reverse the gelding. Like if you have a colt that you geld, but then proves himself to be very valuable later and you want to breed him a way to reverse the gelding, only the breeder of the horse has this option so the buyer can't do that. Maybe a small PT fee but still a way out if you make a mistake??? Just a thought... maybe impossible but it would be super cool if it could be.

[Sawd10]

Hello.
So sorry if this sounds pushy, it is NOT meant to be that way.
When is gelding supposed to come out? (if you guys know when). Because I am SUPER protective about my lines & want to sell some horses but can't because there is no telling what people will do to it! I can't wait for this to come out and so I am really excited, but not sure when to expect it? Thank you so much for your time.
1 of thousands of players,
Sawd10

Hey! As much I somewhat have a IRL gripe with people and the whole "Geldings are safer" thing I have to agree I'm looking forward to selling some show horses that I don't want bred like my elite lines only the best for breeding! But one thing I hope can be possible is a reverse command... I know it doesn't happen IRL but a way to reverse the gelding. Like if you have a colt that you geld, but then proves himself to be very valuable later and you want to breed him a way to reverse the gelding, only the breeder of the horse has this option so the buyer can't do that. Maybe a small PT fee but still a way out if you make a mistake??? Just a thought... maybe impossible but it would be super cool if it could be.

Hmm.
That would be pretty cool, but what if people reverse it on the horse you gelded for a reason? I think the PERSON WHO GELDED it should be the only one to be able to reverse it. If they made this. And yeah, I think a good fee would be like 75-100 PT or something. Maybe higher, you know?

[Honeybunny#2]

Hey! As much I somewhat have a IRL gripe with people and the whole "Geldings are safer" thing I have to agree I'm looking forward to selling some show horses that I don't want bred like my elite lines only the best for breeding! But one thing I hope can be possible is a reverse command... I know it doesn't happen IRL but a way to reverse the gelding. Like if you have a colt that you geld, but then proves himself to be very valuable later and you want to breed him a way to reverse the gelding, only the breeder of the horse has this option so the buyer can't do that. Maybe a small PT fee but still a way out if you make a mistake??? Just a thought... maybe impossible but it would be super cool if it could be.

Hmm.
That would be pretty cool, but what if people reverse it on the horse you gelded for a reason? I think the PERSON WHO GELDED it should be the only one to be able to reverse it. If they made this. And yeah, I think a good fee would be like 75-100 PT or something. Maybe higher, you know?

Ya... thats what I mean... like only the person who Gelded the horse can undo it. Maybe a lower fee, like 35 or 40 PT. But for sure only the person who gelded the horse can undo it.

[BlackOak2]

Hey! As much I somewhat have a IRL gripe with people and the whole "Geldings are safer" thing I have to agree I'm looking forward to selling some show horses that I don't want bred like my elite lines only the best for breeding! But one thing I hope can be possible is a reverse command... I know it doesn't happen IRL but a way to reverse the gelding. Like if you have a colt that you geld, but then proves himself to be very valuable later and you want to breed him a way to reverse the gelding, only the breeder of the horse has this option so the buyer can't do that. Maybe a small PT fee but still a way out if you make a mistake??? Just a thought... maybe impossible but it would be super cool if it could be.

Hmm.
That would be pretty cool, but what if people reverse it on the horse you gelded for a reason? I think the PERSON WHO GELDED it should be the only one to be able to reverse it. If they made this. And yeah, I think a good fee would be like 75-100 PT or something. Maybe higher, you know?

Honeybunny#2 did specify only the original breeder could do it, IF it was added to the game. But I could see some serious downsides to this. Depending on what they want to add for the geldings to encourage or aid in the gelding option (like better or more even competition scorings, etc.), one could arguably geld a horse for those good things, then ungeld the horse to artificially boost the record of said horse. Personally, I'm not for being able to reverse something like this. Though I would certainly use it myself and be happy it was available, I, personally, don't think that would be a positive addition to the game.
On the other hand, a feed that could imitate gelding to calm a stallion down so they can show better, might be something that could be considered a 'flesh-out' idea. That would be something I could go for. It's chemical castration that's temporary.

[Honeybunny#2]

Hmm.
That would be pretty cool, but what if people reverse it on the horse you gelded for a reason? I think the PERSON WHO GELDED it should be the only one to be able to reverse it. If they made this. And yeah, I think a good fee would be like 75-100 PT or something. Maybe higher, you know?

Honeybunny#2 did specify only the original breeder could do it, IF it was added to the game. But I could see some serious downsides to this. Depending on what they want to add for the geldings to encourage or aid in the gelding option (like better or more even competition scorings, etc.), one could arguably geld a horse for those good things, then ungeld the horse to artificially boost the record of said horse. Personally, I'm not for being able to reverse something like this. Though I would certainly use it myself and be happy it was available, I, personally, don't think that would be a positive addition to the game.
On the other hand, a feed that could imitate gelding to calm a stallion down so they can show better, might be something that could be considered a 'flesh-out' idea. That would be something I could go for. It's chemical castration that's temporary.

I hear you for sure about the downsides... could see people cheating the system (that is why the PT fee to discourage that) and I most definitely agree with the chemical temporary gelding over the permanent being a good choice for the breeder. (I use a proscribed supplement on most my ungelded colts when I keep them intact for evaluation at 3. It is a short term chemical gelding that wears off in less than a month.) I would say, however that I truly believe there should be very little point difference in comps for stallions and geldings... except in Pleasure, In-hand, Driving, show jumping, hunter and other more domestic sports. Racing for one should be a very slight lower point difference for Geldings (stallions get more points) because generally a stallion will always smoke a Gelding in racing (there are exceptions) and most racing TB's are only Gelded after failing to prove their standing as a stud. Endurance is a different matter. Sprint racing, racing, harness racing, steeplechase, should perhaps have a point downside if you are entering a Gelding. Mostly to stick to IRL. There are exceptions but mostly these few sports are a vastly populated by colts and stallions. Mostly because of testosterone, increased muscle mass and "hot" tendencies.

[BlackOak2]

I hear you for sure about the downsides... could see people cheating the system (that is why the PT fee to discourage that) and I most definitely agree with the chemical temporary gelding over the permanent being a good choice for the breeder. (I use a proscribed supplement on most my ungelded colts when I keep them intact for evaluation at 3. It is a short term chemical gelding that wears off in less than a month.) I would say, however that I truly believe there should be very little point difference in comps for stallions and geldings... except in Pleasure, In-hand, Driving, show jumping, hunter and other more domestic sports. Racing for one should be a very slight lower point difference for Geldings (stallions get more points) because generally a stallion will always smoke a Gelding in racing (there are exceptions) and most racing TB's are only Gelded after failing to prove their standing as a stud. Endurance is a different matter. Sprint racing, racing, harness racing, steeplechase, should perhaps have a point downside if you are entering a Gelding. Mostly to stick to IRL. There are exceptions but mostly these few sports are a vastly populated by colts and stallions. Mostly because of testosterone, increased muscle mass and "hot" tendencies.

It's a sharp subject for sure.

There are arguments on all sides that offer proof for one side while being denied with the other and so on. I like stallions in real life as competitive horses, I don't get along too much with mares, but it seems with the right pairing, they have their competitive edge as well. And geldings can also display that competitive desire, I have seen it for sure... I said CAN. Though, there isn't too many times I've seen a gelding drop a stallion on the racing circuit. However, I have also seen them easily 'smoke a stallion'... and on that racing circuit; I've also seen geldings race better and faster after the procedure then before. But that is neither here nor there for this topic discussion.

I am not and was not attempting to bring up that long list of pros and cons to gelding as the topic dedicated to it still sits around here somewhere. My point was only to offer that a temporary feed-style gelding for those an owner is unsure about might be the better option, rather than a gelding reversal. But I do not know how that might be best implemented in the game. It would definitely need to be fleshed out before I could offer a vote for or against.

[Honeybunny#2]

I hear you for sure about the downsides... could see people cheating the system (that is why the PT fee to discourage that) and I most definitely agree with the chemical temporary gelding over the permanent being a good choice for the breeder. (I use a proscribed supplement on most my ungelded colts when I keep them intact for evaluation at 3. It is a short term chemical gelding that wears off in less than a month.) I would say, however that I truly believe there should be very little point difference in comps for stallions and geldings... except in Pleasure, In-hand, Driving, show jumping, hunter and other more domestic sports. Racing for one should be a very slight lower point difference for Geldings (stallions get more points) because generally a stallion will always smoke a Gelding in racing (there are exceptions) and most racing TB's are only Gelded after failing to prove their standing as a stud. Endurance is a different matter. Sprint racing, racing, harness racing, steeplechase, should perhaps have a point downside if you are entering a Gelding. Mostly to stick to IRL. There are exceptions but mostly these few sports are a vastly populated by colts and stallions. Mostly because of testosterone, increased muscle mass and "hot" tendencies.

It's a sharp subject for sure.

There are arguments on all sides that offer proof for one side while being denied with the other and so on. I like stallions in real life as competitive horses, I don't get along too much with mares, but it seems with the right pairing, they have their competitive edge as well. And geldings can also display that competitive desire, I have seen it for sure... I said CAN. Though, there isn't too many times I've seen a gelding drop a stallion on the racing circuit. However, I have also seen them easily 'smoke a stallion'... and on that racing circuit; I've also seen geldings race better and faster after the procedure then before. But that is neither here nor there for this topic discussion.

I am not and was not attempting to bring up that long list of pros and cons to gelding as the topic dedicated to it still sits around here somewhere. My point was only to offer that a temporary feed-style gelding for those an owner is unsure about might be the better option, rather than a gelding reversal. But I do not know how that might be best implemented in the game. It would definitely need to be fleshed out before I could offer a vote for or against.

For sure!! Stallions, gelding and mares all have a very competitive edge, it largely depends on the rider, the lines and the training. I personally love my stallions, I respect and adore my elderly geldings and I compete my mares and have a working and bff relationship with them. A good gelding can beat a stallion any day of the week, a mare can too. Like I said (and like you are saying) it really depends on the animals and how it is handled. My little feedlot "project" mare and I are a perfectly matched working team and she loves me more than any of my stallions or my old geldings. But honestly I would never turn down a chance to ride/ show any gender gelded or spayed. I agree... I wish people would drop the this gender is better argument and, to be blunt, just "shut up and ride". I've learned that I never know when my last ride is so I no longer care and I hope people who are on one side here can feel the same. And as a community we can just except whatever the heck our great moderators have in store for the Gelding thing. I personally can't wait to try it.