Question..

[Sawd10]

I have a question.. It's about the Sooty color (I'm talking Sooty TB's). So I acrually have two questions: 1: Say I want to use a Sooty TB stud but I don't have a Sooty mare.. Is there another color I would be able to use to still keep the Sooty gene (and hopefully get a sooty baby with)? 2: I have no clue how to make the color coudl anyone tell me how? Thanks everyone!! See you! -Sawd10

[BlackOak2]

I have a question.. It's about the Sooty color (I'm talking Sooty TB's). So I acrually have two questions: 1: Say I want to use a Sooty TB stud but I don't have a Sooty mare.. Is there another color I would be able to use to still keep the Sooty gene (and hopefully get a sooty baby with)? 2: I have no clue how to make the color coudl anyone tell me how? Thanks everyone!! See you! -Sawd10

You'll likely find these links very helpful:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... =13&t=9466
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=2&t=1601
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=8&t=4511

If you still have questions, let us know.

[Sawd10]

I have a question.. It's about the Sooty color (I'm talking Sooty TB's). So I acrually have two questions: 1: Say I want to use a Sooty TB stud but I don't have a Sooty mare.. Is there another color I would be able to use to still keep the Sooty gene (and hopefully get a sooty baby with)? 2: I have no clue how to make the color coudl anyone tell me how? Thanks everyone!! See you! -Sawd10

You'll likely find these links very helpful:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... =13&t=9466
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=2&t=1601
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=8&t=4511

If you still have questions, let us know.

I read through them all. I didn't get any info if it was possible to breed a horse that's not a sooty dapple to a sooty dapple and get a sooty dapple baby? Do you know anything about that-- If it's possible or something?

[BlackOak2]

You'll likely find these links very helpful:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... =13&t=9466
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=2&t=1601
http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... f=8&t=4511

If you still have questions, let us know.

I read through them all. I didn't get any info if it was possible to breed a horse that's not a sooty dapple to a sooty dapple and get a sooty dapple baby? Do you know anything about that-- If it's possible or something?

These are my direct notes on sooty:
Sooty
dominant gene
4 master switch genes found in 3 breeds and very rarely in 4 other breeds
4 expression genes (area of coverage), found in 3 breeds and rarely in 4 others
4 strength genes found 'in most breeds to varying degrees'
1 progression gene, fastest found in 5 breeds, but slowest found in all breeds

And these are my direct notes on sooty dapples:
Sooty With Dapples - master switch in only one breed
dominant gene
3 strength genes also in just that one master switch breed
must have both sooty and dapples to appear
master switch breed rarely appears sooty & 1 in 4 horses will carry the gene.

I gave them both because in order to have the dapples, you will also need the direct sooty gene. So this means that the sooty dapples gene is separate from the sooty gene. The good thing is that they're both dominant, which means only one parent needs to have them, in order for the chance to pass them on. The downside to that is that it appears the heaviness of the sooty does need to be bred into the bloodline, which means if you breed a heavy sooty dappled horse to a line that had no appearance of sooty dapples, the resulting offspring may pop out as a very gently expressed sooty dapple.

So you CAN get a sooty dapple from a non-sooty dapple if the other parent IS a sooty dapple. But the parent that has the sooty dapples must pass on BOTH the sooty gene AND the dapple gene.

[Sawd10]

I read through them all. I didn't get any info if it was possible to breed a horse that's not a sooty dapple to a sooty dapple and get a sooty dapple baby? Do you know anything about that-- If it's possible or something?

These are my direct notes on sooty:
Sooty
dominant gene
4 master switch genes found in 3 breeds and very rarely in 4 other breeds
4 expression genes (area of coverage), found in 3 breeds and rarely in 4 others
4 strength genes found 'in most breeds to varying degrees'
1 progression gene, fastest found in 5 breeds, but slowest found in all breeds

And these are my direct notes on sooty dapples:
Sooty With Dapples - master switch in only one breed
dominant gene
3 strength genes also in just that one master switch breed
must have both sooty and dapples to appear
master switch breed rarely appears sooty & 1 in 4 horses will carry the gene.

I gave them both because in order to have the dapples, you will also need the direct sooty gene. So this means that the sooty dapples gene is separate from the sooty gene. The good thing is that they're both dominant, which means only one parent needs to have them, in order for the chance to pass them on. The downside to that is that it appears the heaviness of the sooty does need to be bred into the bloodline, which means if you breed a heavy sooty dappled horse to a line that had no appearance of sooty dapples, the resulting offspring may pop out as a very gently expressed sooty dapple.

So you CAN get a sooty dapple from a non-sooty dapple if the other parent IS a sooty dapple. But the parent that has the sooty dapples must pass on BOTH the sooty gene AND the dapple gene.

Ok. So what color(s) would ypu suggest I breed the stallion to? ( The link of the stallion below ). Sorry for all the questions!
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2117286
I think he is an extreme Sooty Dapple.

[BlackOak2]

Ok. So what color(s) would ypu suggest I breed the stallion to? ( The link of the stallion below ). Sorry for all the questions!
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2117286
I think he is an extreme Sooty Dapple.

Questions are fine.

First, I'd seriously suggest to stay away from black. Black doesn't show sooty at all.

Second, this is a nice flaxen chestnut stallion, so you can be assured he carries the recessive e/e extension for black, namely chestnut. I think I see a couple bays in his pedigree, so he likely hides the agouti gene A, at least one of them.
So technically speaking, you could breed him to a black mare and will likely receive a bay offspring. I'd suggest, however, another chestnut. You'd be guaranteed a chestnut foal and chestnuts are decently easy to see such things like sooty on, so the dapples, if or when they come, should be fairly easily distinguishable.

[Sawd10]

Ok. So what color(s) would ypu suggest I breed the stallion to? ( The link of the stallion below ). Sorry for all the questions!
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2117286
I think he is an extreme Sooty Dapple.

Questions are fine.

First, I'd seriously suggest to stay away from black. Black doesn't show sooty at all.

Second, this is a nice flaxen chestnut stallion, so you can be assured he carries the recessive e/e extension for black, namely chestnut. I think I see a couple bays in his pedigree, so he likely hides the agouti gene A, at least one of them.
So technically speaking, you could breed him to a black mare and will likely receive a bay offspring. I'd suggest, however, another chestnut. You'd be guaranteed a chestnut foal and chestnuts are decently easy to see such things like sooty on, so the dapples, if or when they come, should be fairly easily distinguishable.

Ok. I have a couple here. which one/few do you think? http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/683517
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1865730
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2012789
I can also buy more from the market ifthese are bad.

[BlackOak2]

Questions are fine.

First, I'd seriously suggest to stay away from black. Black doesn't show sooty at all.

Second, this is a nice flaxen chestnut stallion, so you can be assured he carries the recessive e/e extension for black, namely chestnut. I think I see a couple bays in his pedigree, so he likely hides the agouti gene A, at least one of them.
So technically speaking, you could breed him to a black mare and will likely receive a bay offspring. I'd suggest, however, another chestnut. You'd be guaranteed a chestnut foal and chestnuts are decently easy to see such things like sooty on, so the dapples, if or when they come, should be fairly easily distinguishable.

Ok. I have a couple here. which one/few do you think? http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/683517
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1865730
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2012789
I can also buy more from the market ifthese are bad.

I wouldn't suggest the Lp mare (showtym dark aftermath). The leopard complex, in this case varnish, will change the appearance and possibly make it much harder to tell whether the sooty passed on correctly or not.
Papaya, the first one you linked, is quite a nice looking mare, but appears to have NO sooty at all, thus you will leave it up to the stallion to pass both genes onward. And you have no clue what papaya carries, she may be a dapple carrier or not (it appears most horses in-game are NOT carriers).
However, Maroon A Button is a pseudo-black. A chestnut that has such a dark sooty gene as to appear black in color. She is your best best to get the heavy sooty and might be able to throw you a nice dappled offspring with the stud.

[Sawd10]

Ok. I have a couple here. which one/few do you think? http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/683517
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1865730
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2012789
I can also buy more from the market ifthese are bad.

I wouldn't suggest the Lp mare (showtym dark aftermath). The leopard complex, in this case varnish, will change the appearance and possibly make it much harder to tell whether the sooty passed on correctly or not.
Papaya, the first one you linked, is quite a nice looking mare, but appears to have NO sooty at all, thus you will leave it up to the stallion to pass both genes onward. And you have no clue what papaya carries, she may be a dapple carrier or not (it appears most horses in-game are NOT carriers).
However, Maroon A Button is a pseudo-black. A chestnut that has such a dark sooty gene as to appear black in color. She is your best best to get the heavy sooty and might be able to throw you a nice dappled offspring with the stud.

Ok thanks so much!!!!