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N/A Evaluation and aiming for new breed

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So I decided I needed more of a challenge than just breeding my Arabians to have the typical dished face (even though that has been quite satisfying as well, hehe) - so I've decided to try for Connemara ponies since I have a bunch of petite Arabians (sigh). Sooooo, as I'm going, I have 2 Arab x Welsh Cobs right now that actually evaluate at 4* and 5*...the rest are N/A. Does that mean that I have NO hope of getting a Connemara if I breed one of them to the other needed cross, or it's just highly unlikely? I'm not sure if I should scrap them or not.

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Re: N/A Evaluation and aiming for new breed

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Purple Lightning wrote:So I decided I needed more of a challenge than just breeding my Arabians to have the typical dished face (even though that has been quite satisfying as well, hehe) - so I've decided to try for Connemara ponies since I have a bunch of petite Arabians (sigh). Sooooo, as I'm going, I have 2 Arab x Welsh Cobs right now that actually evaluate at 4* and 5*...the rest are N/A. Does that mean that I have NO hope of getting a Connemara if I breed one of them to the other needed cross, or it's just highly unlikely? I'm not sure if I should scrap them or not.

Thanks!
Just less hope, that's all. Having perfectly evaluated parents does certainly help in new breed creation, but them not being perfect doesn't mean that you'll not get the new breed.
I have made new breed horses from parents that were both evaluated N/A.

The trick is, matching the parents so that the offspring evaluates within the new breed standard, so if you have one that is too tall and too heavy, then the other will need to be too small and too light.

It'll likely be frustrating, but it can happen. Evaluate the foals and see what your horses are missing (does the one parent consistently favor heavier offspring? does the other consistently favor taller offspring), and make your adjustments from there.
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Purple Lightning Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:16 pm Posts: 58

Re: N/A Evaluation and aiming for new breed

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Purple Lightning wrote:So I decided I needed more of a challenge than just breeding my Arabians to have the typical dished face (even though that has been quite satisfying as well, hehe) - so I've decided to try for Connemara ponies since I have a bunch of petite Arabians (sigh). Sooooo, as I'm going, I have 2 Arab x Welsh Cobs right now that actually evaluate at 4* and 5*...the rest are N/A. Does that mean that I have NO hope of getting a Connemara if I breed one of them to the other needed cross, or it's just highly unlikely? I'm not sure if I should scrap them or not.

Thanks!
Just less hope, that's all. Having perfectly evaluated parents does certainly help in new breed creation, but them not being perfect doesn't mean that you'll not get the new breed.
I have made new breed horses from parents that were both evaluated N/A.

The trick is, matching the parents so that the offspring evaluates within the new breed standard, so if you have one that is too tall and too heavy, then the other will need to be too small and too light.

It'll likely be frustrating, but it can happen. Evaluate the foals and see what your horses are missing (does the one parent consistently favor heavier offspring? does the other consistently favor taller offspring), and make your adjustments from there.
Fabulous, that helps to know that. Thanks!

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