Second opinion on colors?

[Ziel]

Hey all! I'm fairly new to the game, and while I'm pretty confident in my estimates (thanks to this guide), I've got a few horses who's color I'd like some second opinions on from more experienced players.

Coat color is listed on the horse's page!







Thank you!!

[LlamaLlama99]

Hey all! I'm fairly new to the game, and while I'm pretty confident in my estimates (thanks to this guide), I've got a few horses who's color I'd like some second opinions on from more experienced players.

Coat color is listed on the horse's page!







Thank you!!

I am not an expert so this may not be completely accurate hopefully someone will expand further than me-


She appears to be silver amber champagne pangare

Silver- is what you have mistaken for flaxen which I have observed to be guide a common mistake. Silver makes her mane, tail, and feathers a ‘silver colour’ flaxen only effects chestnut based horses and is more of a ‘blonde’ kind of colour rather than a steel gray colour. Her dam appears to be where she inherited silver and basically all characteristics.

Amber Champagne- is bay based with either heterozygous or homozygous copies of champagne. She would most likely be a double copy of champagne because both sides have champagne. The darker points in her legs and muzzle show that she is amber champagne and not gold champagne which you have labelled her as. Her dam is also Amber champagne.

Pangare- or mealy creates a beige kind of colour on the belly and muzzle. For the future remember that it doesn’t effect black based horses.



This colt appears to be mealy silver bay Dun.

Silver- As you already know the silver creates a silver coloured mane and tail. You have mistaken silver for flaxen which only effects chestnut based horses!

Mealy- I explained before

Bay Dun- bay based with either homozygous it heterozygous Dun. I believe he has one copy of the Dun gene from his homozygous sire. Bay Dun is basically a sometimes a kind of washed out bay with dorsal stripe and leg stripes which vary in visibility. His sire is normal bay Dun but more washed out and more visible striping.



SHe looks to be just bay Dun near leopard or blanket. She looks like he would be silver although that would most likely be of varnishing beacause she had a black mane when she was younger so would not be silver.

Bay Dun- from dam side. Looks a bit washed out.

Leopard- I am not that great at identifying different leopard patterns so I will leave that to someone who is a leopard expert.




She looks to be once again bay Dun leopard.

Dun- striping on the legs are very visible. The washed out effect is commonly mistaken for roan she dies not display roan at the moment though us young and possibly could vary.

Leopard- is taking place. Once again I am not an expert at leopard so I would just say blanket.



She appears to be bay Dun with a lace blanket or blanket?

Bay Dun- visible striping
Leopard- blanket?

I ran out of time anyone able to expand further especially leopard?

[Ziel]

I am not an expert so this may not be completely accurate hopefully someone will expand further than me-


She appears to be silver amber champagne pangare

Silver- is what you have mistaken for flaxen which I have observed to be guide a common mistake. Silver makes her mane, tail, and feathers a ‘silver colour’ flaxen only effects chestnut based horses and is more of a ‘blonde’ kind of colour rather than a steel gray colour. Her dam appears to be where she inherited silver and basically all characteristics.

Amber Champagne- is bay based with either heterozygous or homozygous copies of champagne. She would most likely be a double copy of champagne because both sides have champagne. The darker points in her legs and muzzle show that she is amber champagne and not gold champagne which you have labelled her as. Her dam is also Amber champagne.

Pangare- or mealy creates a beige kind of colour on the belly and muzzle. For the future remember that it doesn’t effect black based horses.



This colt appears to be mealy silver bay Dun.

Silver- As you already know the silver creates a silver coloured mane and tail. You have mistaken silver for flaxen which only effects chestnut based horses!

Mealy- I explained before

Bay Dun- bay based with either homozygous it heterozygous Dun. I believe he has one copy of the Dun gene from his homozygous sire. Bay Dun is basically a sometimes a kind of washed out bay with dorsal stripe and leg stripes which vary in visibility. His sire is normal bay Dun but more washed out and more visible striping.

Double checking the guide I used, I can see how silver and flaxen are easily mistaken! I also re-read and you are correct that any "mealy" adult is technically "pangare" since they wouldn't keep the mealy coloration into adulthood otherwise.

And yes, I believe I have a few Bay Duns that happen to be rather washed out, which is why I mistook the mare for being dun.

SHe looks to be just bay Dun near leopard or blanket. She looks like he would be silver although that would most likely be of varnishing beacause she had a black mane when she was younger so would not be silver.

Bay Dun- from dam side. Looks a bit washed out.

Leopard- I am not that great at identifying different leopard patterns so I will leave that to someone who is a leopard expert.




She looks to be once again bay Dun leopard.

Dun- striping on the legs are very visible. The washed out effect is commonly mistaken for roan she dies not display roan at the moment though us young and possibly could vary.

Leopard- is taking place. Once again I am not an expert at leopard so I would just say blanket.

Looking at them both, I'm unsure about the older mare being Dun now. She doesn't appear to have shown striping anywhere when she was younger - would the dark red base in her mane be an indicator of her being Dun? If she is, she is REALLY washed out lol!

The second girl is definitely Dun. I included the Varnish Roan in her color description because according to the guide - and her mother - the Leopard / Blanket marking appears to come hand-in-hand with the varnishing coloration, although it only appears when older, so she's probably yet to display it.

Thanks for your help!!