What color is this colt?

[meganamber]

He is a really interesting color. Can someone help me out?

[meganamber]

Here's another colt I'm having trouble with.. I thought he was grullo but what's with his brown nose?!

[BlackOak2]

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Ivan appears to be a smoky cream dun probably with the silver gene.

Prince Andrew is a brown dun. Brown causes the brown areas and dun makes a lot of browns look gray.

[meganamber]

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Ivan appears to be a smoky cream dun probably with the silver gene.

Prince Andrew is a brown dun. Brown causes the brown areas and dun makes a lot of browns look gray.

Thanks for the help!
What about this guy?
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1025366

[BlackOak2]

Ivan appears to be a smoky cream dun probably with the silver gene.

Prince Andrew is a brown dun. Brown causes the brown areas and dun makes a lot of browns look gray.

Thanks for the help!
What about this guy?
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1025366

Silver Bay Dun
Silver produces gray or whitish manes and tails in bays and browns and causes a gray color or also a dappling affect in blacks (it's not visible on chestnuts).
Dun in bays generally causes them to appear faded like Sea Biscuit with darker legs and faces. The biggest difference perhaps between bay duns and red duns (sometimes they look similar), is the darker black points on the nose, legs and ear-tips; it's a defined color shift from dun to bay to black (chestnuts will only have one color shift from dun to red).

We have color guides that help to explain this in depth, in our color forum with pictures, gene identification, AC horse gene possibilities and in our help guide area there's an easy identification guide for those just learning colors. All of these should help you to begin to identify your colors.

[Silverine]

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Ivan appears to be a smoky cream dun probably with the silver gene.

Prince Andrew is a brown dun. Brown causes the brown areas and dun makes a lot of browns look gray.

Just wanted to say that Ivan is actually Brown Cream Silver Dun, not smoky cream. The light areas on his muzzle, behind his forelegs, and on his flank indicate a brown base.