Black Oak Farm Sales - Closed

[BlackOak2]

My mother was (kind of surprisingly) really open about most things, letting us test the waters, going with trends that were not always condsidered 'normal' in society, she gave us rules though - but mostly for our own protection and I'm really glad she did so if I see in comparision some families or people I knew and what they do/are now -.-' so yes, there are cases of society being the reason for willfull ignorance/stupid or where protecting yourself with being conform/not different in perspective, mind or ambition against closeminded others is needed; but being willfully ignorant if it just is easier to be and choking yourself or others with this is generally sad and makes me angry.

There is a reason why I generally say that I hate humans - but that doesn't mean I can't like individuals/people.
We have knowledge, resources and methods to be so much better than we are, we just have to be willing to invest ourselves, try to reason for our goals with words or just producing better results than pressuring others with loss of any kind (be it live, freedom, family, safety, stability of living, proprietory possessions and so on). Contentment of self is equally important, but if one would be willing but choose not to invest his mind or abilities because of the stupidity and closemindedness of others that is something that makes me also angry and disappointed in humans.

Wow, I'm not sure immediately how to respond!
Although I find myself smiling kind of like an idiot as I read through what you offered.

So I think I'll respond like this (and hope that you won't feel negatively about it, because I, at least on my side, am thoroughly enjoying our conversation).

At first, my thoughts were...
Why is it, I couldn't find somebody thinking like I do growing up in school? I had friends, but there were reasons I never offered much more than the friendly, but still closed or stand-offish demeanor I had. Apparently, they thought I was lost inside my own shell.
Secondly came...
I wonder if this type of thought is from growing up and maturing in a world when we finally have our eyes opened, or if this is from the considerations of a younger mind that can see the world for what it is at a very early stage?
Third came...
I wonder if this is from living in Germany, versus America? Of course, I realize that one doesn't need to necessarily be living in one corner of the world to actually see the rest of the world for what it is. That's the slow part of my mind showing itself.
Fourth, as I went back to re-read the second paragraph, thinking that I might have missed something...
For some reason, I think I should feel insulted? But why? I certainly don't and can't figure out why I should. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I can probably to easily see myself on the receiving end of somebody you could hate.
The fifth thought that crossed my mind is...
Yet, I entirely agree with this, right down to the point of choosing to hate those who would turn a blind eye to those in need.
Thus, I came to my conclusion thought...
Perhaps I have done just what you've said, so you would have a right to stick me in with those who may have been able to invest their minds and chose not to. Yet, there are two things that stop me. First, if born and raised a woman (like I), one finds them-self more often ignored even when speaking up. Even when proven time and again to have spoken not only right, but having never said such words as 'I told you so', and still having one's words ignored, it leaves the feeling that no matter what is said, there is a worthlessness to speak at all. And second, after such a long time of trying to aid people (or rather persons) to make their lives easier, either with emotional, physical or mental issues and finding that such assistance if often unwanted, regardless of the outcome, I refuse to help those who do not first seek it out.

It sounds like my rearing was a lot like yours. My parents let me do just about whatever I wanted, but they did have some rules that were never to be crossed. Apparently I was an 'easy' kid to raise. Perhaps I should've gotten into more trouble, but I liked the quiet, safe life. To this day I don't like arguments or fighting and occasionally, I'll find myself wanting to step in between two people that are verbally having it out. Even strangers. Actually, with strangers, I want to give them both a hard slap and tell them both off. After all, what the fudgy are they doing screaming in public?! Then, of course, I have that urge to fix what's bothering them... It's a difficult fight for me, especially nowadays.

[Nazarach]

Wow, I'm not sure immediately how to respond!
Although I find myself smiling kind of like an idiot as I read through what you offered.

So I think I'll respond like this (and hope that you won't feel negatively about it, because I, at least on my side, am thoroughly enjoying our conversation).

At first, my thoughts were...
Why is it, I couldn't find somebody thinking like I do growing up in school? I had friends, but there were reasons I never offered much more than the friendly, but still closed or stand-offish demeanor I had. Apparently, they thought I was lost inside my own shell.
Secondly came...
I wonder if this type of thought is from growing up and maturing in a world when we finally have our eyes opened, or if this is from the considerations of a younger mind that can see the world for what it is at a very early stage?
Third came...
I wonder if this is from living in Germany, versus America? Of course, I realize that one doesn't need to necessarily be living in one corner of the world to actually see the rest of the world for what it is. That's the slow part of my mind showing itself.
Fourth, as I went back to re-read the second paragraph, thinking that I might have missed something...
For some reason, I think I should feel insulted? But why? I certainly don't and can't figure out why I should. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I can probably to easily see myself on the receiving end of somebody you could hate.
The fifth thought that crossed my mind is...
Yet, I entirely agree with this, right down to the point of choosing to hate those who would turn a blind eye to those in need.
Thus, I came to my conclusion thought...
Perhaps I have done just what you've said, so you would have a right to stick me in with those who may have been able to invest their minds and chose not to. Yet, there are two things that stop me. First, if born and raised a woman (like I), one finds them-self more often ignored even when speaking up. Even when proven time and again to have spoken not only right, but having never said such words as 'I told you so', and still having one's words ignored, it leaves the feeling that no matter what is said, there is a worthlessness to speak at all. And second, after such a long time of trying to aid people (or rather persons) to make their lives easier, either with emotional, physical or mental issues and finding that such assistance if often unwanted, regardless of the outcome, I refuse to help those who do not first seek it out.

It sounds like my rearing was a lot like yours. My parents let me do just about whatever I wanted, but they did have some rules that were never to be crossed. Apparently I was an 'easy' kid to raise. Perhaps I should've gotten into more trouble, but I liked the quiet, safe life. To this day I don't like arguments or fighting and occasionally, I'll find myself wanting to step in between two people that are verbally having it out. Even strangers. Actually, with strangers, I want to give them both a hard slap and tell them both off. After all, what the fudgy are they doing screaming in public?! Then, of course, I have that urge to fix what's bothering them... It's a difficult fight for me, especially nowadays.

Don't feel insulted, I should mention that I only tell someone I do like that I hate humans and then wait if that still is the case afterewards, like 'can they accept or understand why I think so and still be interested in conversing?' so it is kind of an compliment to the people I do like (convoluted thinking but at least I'm honest) ^^
I didn't mean that everyone should have to invest their all just because they could, that was what I attempted to say with the last sentence, personal contentment - if you are content with yourself, or content enough with what you chose to do - is what is more, or even most important. And when the ignorance, as you said yourself Chosing to ignore someone even if he is right just because of prejudice is something I ment with what makes me also angry, denying someone to be heard, choking their attempts to communicate. I'm well aware that this needs all persons involved to make an attempt not disregarding others, cause they just might know better.

And slapping aguing people I can always relate to xD I hate conflict that could be solved or even prevented in the beginning because people just don't talk! And helping if I can, bcause maybe they are just too involved, maybe they need an outsiders perspective and why couldn't it be me if they'd listend... it really is difficult... v_v

[BlackOak2]

Don't feel insulted, I should mention that I only tell someone I do like that I hate humans and then wait if that still is the case afterewards, like 'can they accept or understand why I think so and still be interested in conversing?' so it is kind of an compliment to the people I do like (convoluted thinking but at least I'm honest) ^^
I didn't mean that everyone should have to invest their all just because they could, that was what I attempted to say with the last sentence, personal contentment - if you are content with yourself, or content enough with what you chose to do - is what is more, or even most important. And when the ignorance, as you said yourself Chosing to ignore someone even if he is right just because of prejudice is something I ment with what makes me also angry, denying someone to be heard, choking their attempts to communicate. I'm well aware that this needs all persons involved to make an attempt not disregarding others, cause they just might know better.

And slapping aguing people I can always relate to xD I hate conflict that could be solved or even prevented in the beginning because people just don't talk! And helping if I can, bcause maybe they are just too involved, maybe they need an outsiders perspective and why couldn't it be me if they'd listend... it really is difficult... v_v

I'm certainly not insulted. I think, after considering it for the past 20 minutes or so (since I posted), that it's a learned response for me. I think that I feel like I should be insulted because I must've learned at some point I should be. I wasn't sure if or how I should say it, or even if I should disclose it, but I do think you're one of the few people that would appreciate it being said, if only for the fact that it may further your own personal understanding.
I wrote it out the way I did and all of it, because for some reason, I felt that you'd appreciate hearing my thoughts for what they were.
I am actually finding myself quite smug with this conversation, which is ... my mind says it's incredibly weird. I feel like I'm a cat which just finished drinking a very rich bowl of cream.
So it's a little weird.
Maybe I feel this way because I'm taking your compliment and feeling good about it. I have a similar way of expressing myself as you do, except, I often use it to 'scare' them away because I find their understanding falls short of what I need it to be. But that's on a personal level.
Professionally speaking (and socially also), I do my best to leave the 'general' public in a better place then when we cross paths.

I am reminded way too often of two men 'duke-ing it out' over some meaningless argument and the afterward. Them being friends for life. In some cases, words are pointless, yet if people would just listen.
Pride hurts people way too often. But I think we all struggle with that as well.

Such a depressing subject!
I like watching anime to lighten such moods.

[Nazarach]

I'm certainly not insulted. I think, after considering it for the past 20 minutes or so (since I posted), that it's a learned response for me. I think that I feel like I should be insulted because I must've learned at some point I should be. I wasn't sure if or how I should say it, or even if I should disclose it, but I do think you're one of the few people that would appreciate it being said, if only for the fact that it may further your own personal understanding.
I wrote it out the way I did and all of it, because for some reason, I felt that you'd appreciate hearing my thoughts for what they were.
I am actually finding myself quite smug with this conversation, which is ... my mind says it's incredibly weird. I feel like I'm a cat which just finished drinking a very rich bowl of cream.
So it's a little weird.
Maybe I feel this way because I'm taking your compliment and feeling good about it. I have a similar way of expressing myself as you do, except, I often use it to 'scare' them away because I find their understanding falls short of what I need it to be. But that's on a personal level.
Professionally speaking (and socially also), I do my best to leave the 'general' public in a better place then when we cross paths.

I am reminded way too often of two men 'duke-ing it out' over some meaningless argument and the afterward. Them being friends for life. In some cases, words are pointless, yet if people would just listen.
Pride hurts people way too often. But I think we all struggle with that as well.

Such a depressing subject!
I like watching anime to lighten such moods.

I'm finding this conversation somehow amusingly satisfying as well for some reason ^v^ And I appreciate this convesation and you laying down your thoughts and opinions when I (try) to do the same :3

Most people are offended first when I tell them that I hate humans, so your first response isn't exactly odd; because we all learn early on how great and glorious we are and/or we have to love each other yada yada <.< It's just that at some point I decided for myself I can't. As I said, I'm honest when I can be or am probing to get a reaction from someone, honesty can be so interesting sometimes...
Pride is something I think on one hand I have too much in way that my not be reasonable to some and on the other I'm know I can't show or just am not able to. For example, I'm an avid reader and have a love for trivial, small facts that others might overlook but when I'm sitting in front of people I'm often too nervous to give them wrong answers, facts that they deem senseless and will disregard them, and with that my effort, as useless.
And that stressed me so much in the past that at some point I wasn't able anymore to just talk to strangers about my abilities - constantly thinking saying anything will make them disregard you but not saying anything how will you make them consider your abilities... it was a hard time and left me depressed for a long time; I still less confidence when reporting to others but with going to university, learning that there were people thinking like me, getting the practical skills to converse in a manner helped a lot.

I also love anime they just have this ability to sometimes give these things such nice packages and getting the problems out of the way in a manner quite refreshing ^^ One I recently watched is an adaptation from a rpg-maker game and has a great story and so amusing but relatable characters; it is called Satsuriko no tenshi .

[BlackOak2]

I'm finding this conversation somehow amusingly satisfying as well for some reason ^v^ And I appreciate this convesation and you laying down your thoughts and opinions when I (try) to do the same :3

Most people are offended first when I tell them that I hate humans, so your first response isn't exactly odd; because we all learn early on how great and glorious we are and/or we have to love each other yada yada <.< It's just that at some point I decided for myself I can't. As I said, I'm honest when I can be or am probing to get a reaction from someone, honesty can be so interesting sometimes...
Pride is something I think on one hand I have too much in way that my not be reasonable to some and on the other I'm know I can't show or just am not able to. For example, I'm an avid reader and have a love for trivial, small facts that others might overlook but when I'm sitting in front of people I'm often too nervous to give them wrong answers, facts that they deem senseless and will disregard them, and with that my effort, as useless.
And that stressed me so much in the past that at some point I wasn't able anymore to just talk to strangers about my abilities - constantly thinking saying anything will make them disregard you but not saying anything how will you make them consider your abilities... it was a hard time and left me depressed for a long time; I still less confidence when reporting to others but with going to university, learning that there were people thinking like me, getting the practical skills to converse in a manner helped a lot.

I also love anime they just have this ability to sometimes give these things such nice packages and getting the problems out of the way in a manner quite refreshing ^^ One I recently watched is an adaptation from a rpg-maker game and has a great story and so amusing but relatable characters; it is called Satsuriko no tenshi .

It seems you and I share a lot of mutual-learned histories. But when we came up to these similar situations, we ended up learning different tactics. I got peeved at people when they thought what I had to say was useless. But maybe that had a little to do with the one friend I hung around with growing up. She was good for me I suppose. She would feed back into all of my own trivial, nonsense facts, so when I came up to somebody that considered them useless, I got mad and henceforth ignored them. But as much as that may be different, I ended up not talking to strangers to 'get to know them' as well.
I have somewhere on my computer, and I agree with it still, a quote that reads: I'm the girl that suddenly stopped talking because I felt like I was bothering people.
I find that chatting like this online much easier in a lot of respects. Hiding behind a computer screen enables many of us to open up without having to fear about being judged, at least not at first. It's therapeutic in a lot of ways.

For anime, I find the slice of life genre very soothing to watch. It eases raw nerves for me. And I have that anime on my watch list! I just haven't gotten around to it just yet. My to-watch list is packed with some 50 plus right now. The problem is, I've watched quite a few of them throughout the years and I can't recall which ones I've watched already... even reading the synopsis I can't be sure. So it's entirely possible I've already watched it... However, anime's are fun even when watched before. Preferentially, however, I'm a fantasy and sci-fi type, but when it comes to anime, anything generally goes.

[Nazarach]

It seems you and I share a lot of mutual-learned histories. But when we came up to these similar situations, we ended up learning different tactics. I got peeved at people when they thought what I had to say was useless. But maybe that had a little to do with the one friend I hung around with growing up. She was good for me I suppose. She would feed back into all of my own trivial, nonsense facts, so when I came up to somebody that considered them useless, I got mad and henceforth ignored them. But as much as that may be different, I ended up not talking to strangers to 'get to know them' as well.
I have somewhere on my computer, and I agree with it still, a quote that reads: I'm the girl that suddenly stopped talking because I felt like I was bothering people.
I find that chatting like this online much easier in a lot of respects. Hiding behind a computer screen enables many of us to open up without having to fear about being judged, at least not at first. It's therapeutic in a lot of ways.

For anime, I find the slice of life genre very soothing to watch. It eases raw nerves for me. And I have that anime on my watch list! I just haven't gotten around to it just yet. My to-watch list is packed with some 50 plus right now. The problem is, I've watched quite a few of them throughout the years and I can't recall which ones I've watched already... even reading the synopsis I can't be sure. So it's entirely possible I've already watched it... However, anime's are fun even when watched before. Preferentially, however, I'm a fantasy and sci-fi type, but when it comes to anime, anything generally goes.

That quote I may steal I think *hiding a frying pan behind my back and slowly inching closer* ^^
you are completly right with that; when on the pc, I show lesser hesitation to chat with people and trying to help (this game in special is very therapeutic in that aspect) and I find myself more disagreeable to bullies and uncouth behavior so it is good and bad in both ways. Sadly the anonymity often is misused as well for being an ass or even mobbing, being abrasive or criminal behavior just because you can :/

I admit, slice of live is something I prefere to read as a webnovel (most of them sadly are not - and probably will never be adapted to an anime ) Any you could recommend? :3 I love fantasy and virtual reality/mmo themes; sci-fi again is more prefered for my book (the single exeption would be a few of the gundam seed series), I have a weakness for warhammer 40k and the night lord legion - and reading them in english is the best ^^ the german translation is just soo ankward sometimes <.<'

[BlackOak2]

That quote I may steal I think *hiding a frying pan behind my back and slowly inching closer* ^^
you are completly right with that; when on the pc, I show lesser hesitation to chat with people and trying to help (this game in special is very therapeutic in that aspect) and I find myself more disagreeable to bullies and uncouth behavior so it is good and bad in both ways. Sadly the anonymity often is misused as well for being an ass or even mobbing, being abrasive or criminal behavior just because you can :/

I admit, slice of live is something I prefere to read as a webnovel (most of them sadly are not - and probably will never be adapted to an anime ) Any you could recommend? :3 I love fantasy and virtual reality/mmo themes; sci-fi again is more prefered for my book (the single exeption would be a few of the gundam seed series), I have a weakness for warhammer 40k and the night lord legion - and reading them in english is the best ^^ the german translation is just soo ankward sometimes <.<'

You can't really steal something I already stole off the internet anyway...
It's also good to hear that this game is therapeutic. I find it soothing to an extent. Certainly it helps getting my thoughts off of daily frustrations.
Yeah, you're talking about trolls and trolling and also fishing (or is that phishing?)... That is a sad thing, but there may always be predators out there. It is very important even for adults to remember to be cautious when online. It looses something in translation however. If one chooses to be mean to somebody, the outcome falls flat if you can't see it. So I don't really follow peoples' thoughts for such things when it's a 2-D type of effect. Yeash, just beat up on NPC's rather than real life people. After all, that's the reaction they'll be getting.
There is something very satisfying about beating up something that can't get hurt. I think for a lot of people, saying such would make them respond with a 'that must be so frustrating'. But in my case, since I don't need to be concerned with the infliction of actual pain or injury, it means that there simply is no actual pain or injury.
And here my mind provides an image of some idiot missing some of their teeth, bleeding from several cuts and sporting several bruises... and still grinning like an idiot, waiting for the next barrage. Cartooney like.

I gave up my books years ago. That's neither here or there anymore though.
As for anime, I'd prefer to read them, but only in their original languages. But I don't even speak Cantonese or Japanese or ... some days I have trouble with English! and that's my native language! Hah! So I'm restricted to watching dubbed versions. The english translations in my opinion, do loose quite a bit when they're watched. I don't know about reading english translations, I did enjoy reading them years ago. But the voice actors that they use to sub the videos, the choices are always prone to what the 'english' or even american public would want. If the character was originally pictured as having a higher-pitched voice and the original video has such a voice actor, then switching to a much different voice in another language just to have it dubbed... it's not my idea of the correct choice.
But for some suggestions... I do have some, some of my favorites:
Ouran High School Host Club (school/slice of life)
Fruits Basket (however, the anime stops short and doesn't continue on. I never brought myself to reading the manga, but it's supposed to be quite nice) (school/slice of life)
Inuyasha (fantasy, it's SO long though! I've never watched it through to the very end.)
Trinity Blood (violent fantasy, if I recall correctly)
Vampire Princess Miyu (fantasy/slice of life)
Black Butler (demon/slice of life)
Loveless (fantasy/slice of life... this one gets a little more adult-ish though, but still a very good story. this one also doesn't continue on with the anime, I never touched the manga, I don't know how that is)
Silver Spoon (slice of life/college. This one was very unusual, insofar as how much I enjoyed an anime entirely based around how the main character was in a culinary school)
Rosario + Vampire (school/slice of life, I don't remember too much about this one, but I do remember really enjoying it)
Your Lie in April (slice of life. this is another I don't recall much about, but again, this was one I do recall really enjoying)
Vampire Knight (school/fantasy. This one was really fun to watch. I remember quite often saying "Why?" and "Come on, really?" with this one, but rather than feeling frustrated like sometimes, I just had to laugh)

Those are all of the ones I would consider favorites (some are a little more adult then I would post freely, but again, it's the stories I get absorbed in). But that's a good round number of the ones I'd willingly watch multiple times. The first two are probably at the top of my list permanently.

I've gotten away from suit anime's though. I do like watching them, but they all seem to be built off of the same earliest ones. I'm sure I'm not explaining it very well. Maybe I just got over-exposed to suit anime's. I used to watch gundam, when it first came out. That was when the tv was carrying a lot of anime's, but they were all censured and emphasized for kids. I don't mind it, but I do take heavy notice and occasionally feel slighted when the curse words are bleeped or overwritten for very weak substitutes.
It's getting ingrained in me as well, I'll even censure myself on this game, in the forums when I know my words can be read by our younger audience.
Which reminds me, there was a forum I was on years ago that would automatically censure curse words for younger crowds... I don't recall which forum, but that was quite liberating!

[Nazarach]

You can't really steal something I already stole off the internet anyway...
It's also good to hear that this game is therapeutic. I find it soothing to an extent. Certainly it helps getting my thoughts off of daily frustrations.
Yeah, you're talking about trolls and trolling and also fishing (or is that phishing?)... That is a sad thing, but there may always be predators out there. It is very important even for adults to remember to be cautious when online. It looses something in translation however. If one chooses to be mean to somebody, the outcome falls flat if you can't see it. So I don't really follow peoples' thoughts for such things when it's a 2-D type of effect. Yeash, just beat up on NPC's rather than real life people. After all, that's the reaction they'll be getting.
There is something very satisfying about beating up something that can't get hurt. I think for a lot of people, saying such would make them respond with a 'that must be so frustrating'. But in my case, since I don't need to be concerned with the infliction of actual pain or injury, it means that there simply is no actual pain or injury.
And here my mind provides an image of some idiot missing some of their teeth, bleeding from several cuts and sporting several bruises... and still grinning like an idiot, waiting for the next barrage. Cartooney like.

I gave up my books years ago. That's neither here or there anymore though.
As for anime, I'd prefer to read them, but only in their original languages. But I don't even speak Cantonese or Japanese or ... some days I have trouble with English! and that's my native language! Hah! So I'm restricted to watching dubbed versions. The english translations in my opinion, do loose quite a bit when they're watched. I don't know about reading english translations, I did enjoy reading them years ago. But the voice actors that they use to sub the videos, the choices are always prone to what the 'english' or even american public would want. If the character was originally pictured as having a higher-pitched voice and the original video has such a voice actor, then switching to a much different voice in another language just to have it dubbed... it's not my idea of the correct choice.
But for some suggestions... I do have some, some of my favorites:
Ouran High School Host Club (school/slice of life)
Fruits Basket (however, the anime stops short and doesn't continue on. I never brought myself to reading the manga, but it's supposed to be quite nice) (school/slice of life)
Inuyasha (fantasy, it's SO long though! I've never watched it through to the very end.)
Trinity Blood (violent fantasy, if I recall correctly)
Vampire Princess Miyu (fantasy/slice of life)
Black Butler (demon/slice of life)
Loveless (fantasy/slice of life... this one gets a little more adult-ish though, but still a very good story. this one also doesn't continue on with the anime, I never touched the manga, I don't know how that is)
Silver Spoon (slice of life/college. This one was very unusual, insofar as how much I enjoyed an anime entirely based around how the main character was in a culinary school)
Rosario + Vampire (school/slice of life, I don't remember too much about this one, but I do remember really enjoying it)
Your Lie in April (slice of life. this is another I don't recall much about, but again, this was one I do recall really enjoying)
Vampire Knight (school/fantasy. This one was really fun to watch. I remember quite often saying "Why?" and "Come on, really?" with this one, but rather than feeling frustrated like sometimes, I just had to laugh)

Those are all of the ones I would consider favorites (some are a little more adult then I would post freely, but again, it's the stories I get absorbed in). But that's a good round number of the ones I'd willingly watch multiple times. The first two are probably at the top of my list permanently.

I've gotten away from suit anime's though. I do like watching them, but they all seem to be built off of the same earliest ones. I'm sure I'm not explaining it very well. Maybe I just got over-exposed to suit anime's. I used to watch gundam, when it first came out. That was when the tv was carrying a lot of anime's, but they were all censured and emphasized for kids. I don't mind it, but I do take heavy notice and occasionally feel slighted when the curse words are bleeped or overwritten for very weak substitutes.
It's getting ingrained in me as well, I'll even censure myself on this game, in the forums when I know my words can be read by our younger audience.
Which reminds me, there was a forum I was on years ago that would automatically censure curse words for younger crowds... I don't recall which forum, but that was quite liberating!

I do enjoy the one or other bloody game - rpgs can have quite satisfying battles/smackdowns and animes also have some nice blood-baths (hellsing, even Trinity Blood ^o^) that are very satisfying to watch *grin*

Fun fact, more than half of these animes I have watched already xD
Ouran High School Host Club, Inuyasha (watched every fuc*ing episode ), Trinity Blood (it's drawn so beautiful- and I loved the characters... well, most ^^'), Black Butler (read the manga and was in love, watched the anime and was quite disappointed... apart from the eye-candy ^q^), Rosario + Vampire (sry, but this one my friend showed to me and I hate it, too stupid characters - and I hate harems v_v) and lastly Vampire Knight (sooo good; eye-candy, good story - if you ignore stupid Yuki and the characters are so well written XD).
Fruits Basket, Vampire Princess Miyu, Your Lie in April and Silver Spoon (I like culinary stories xD Pity I do read/watch them most often when hungry - that is a problem ^^') but I will definitly look into them, many thanks as for Loveless, this one I heard about, it is a yaoi and I like these x3 but it is also supposed to be a bit abusive regarding the main character(?) so I couldn't bring myself to watch it until now...maybe I'll give it a try ^^

Oh, censure ^^ sometimes I think there are only existing two extremes - bleeping for even the most mild swearwords (and ruining whole storys with that) and just letting the picture fade out, putting in a black bar, mosaic or similiar things (which doesn't censure anything at all, when most kids are at that point, they already know what would be shown so it's actually senseless I'd say - and sometimes it makes it just more crass because then you use your imagination <.<')...

Fishing and pishing are both methods used by conartists - fishing relies on 'bait' and requires interaction with a potential victim; pishing describes sending forged e-mail or letters that are used to bring the victim to give information of any kind by themself - there are some more but I son't know the words in english ^^' (in my studies we had to do resumees for these kinds of misuse of trust/anonymity by the 'new' media, that's the reason I knwo a bit about this). Awfull, but because most of these cons have such a bad quality you can see through them fairly often ^^'

[BlackOak2]

I do enjoy the one or other bloody game - rpgs can have quite satisfying battles/smackdowns and animes also have some nice blood-baths (hellsing, even Trinity Blood ^o^) that are very satisfying to watch *grin*

Fun fact, more than half of these animes I have watched already xD
Ouran High School Host Club, Inuyasha (watched every fuc*ing episode ), Trinity Blood (it's drawn so beautiful- and I loved the characters... well, most ^^'), Black Butler (read the manga and was in love, watched the anime and was quite disappointed... apart from the eye-candy ^q^), Rosario + Vampire (sry, but this one my friend showed to me and I hate it, too stupid characters - and I hate harems v_v) and lastly Vampire Knight (sooo good; eye-candy, good story - if you ignore stupid Yuki and the characters are so well written XD).
Fruits Basket, Vampire Princess Miyu, Your Lie in April and Silver Spoon (I like culinary stories xD Pity I do read/watch them most often when hungry - that is a problem ^^') but I will definitly look into them, many thanks as for Loveless, this one I heard about, it is a yaoi and I like these x3 but it is also supposed to be a bit abusive regarding the main character(?) so I couldn't bring myself to watch it until now...maybe I'll give it a try ^^

Oh, censure ^^ sometimes I think there are only existing two extremes - bleeping for even the most mild swearwords (and ruining whole storys with that) and just letting the picture fade out, putting in a black bar, mosaic or similiar things (which doesn't censure anything at all, when most kids are at that point, they already know what would be shown so it's actually senseless I'd say - and sometimes it makes it just more crass because then you use your imagination <.<')...

Fishing and pishing are both methods used by conartists - fishing relies on 'bait' and requires interaction with a potential victim; pishing describes sending forged e-mail or letters that are used to bring the victim to give information of any kind by themself - there are some more but I son't know the words in english ^^' (in my studies we had to do resumees for these kinds of misuse of trust/anonymity by the 'new' media, that's the reason I knwo a bit about this). Awfull, but because most of these cons have such a bad quality you can see through them fairly often ^^'

To each their own, you know that well, I'm sure.
I'm all right with harem-style anime, but I like the reverse a little better (I've watched a few of them, although well written with good characters, usually, watching anything a second time, let alone third and beyond, just isn't something I'm interested in, so I might enjoy them, but they don't move into favorite categories).
Loveless the anime, at least, really isn't that bad, it's more mild to medium sadist, masochist instead of torture-like, slave-master like it comes across when people right the synopsis. There was one that I just watched that was much crueler... I didn't like it too much, so that's probably why I don't recall the name now. Loveless is relatively safe, a PG-13 style. But whether you'll like it or not, that's a good question. I think people generally either love it, or hate it, there's no gray line with that anime. I'd have to say that it leans more toward yaoi then it does toward cruelty abuse, but maybe my definitions for anime are a little skewed. The second season, what I recall of that is quite a bit darker, but then again, I haven't watched it in years.
Fruits Basket may be a bit too childish for your tastes, but I think still worth a watch, if only because it is, quite funny at times.
And just to warn you one more, your lie in april, if I recall correctly is really slow. I think I need to watch that one again sometime, I really can't remember much of it at all.

I get so tired of the censures. Nowadays it's getting seriously bad, so to the point that I've stopped watching a lot of tv shows and movies. It's almost boring when you're watching a movie or a show and the people are wearing bathing suits, yet if ANY of the butt is showing at all, there's suddenly a big blow of smudge, this also happens with any side-* at all, often for any cleavage... I'm sounding biased right now on women, but I'm sure I don't have to express that they never show anything for a man either, no butt crack at all. hmm... Kids see more than that just walking to school. They hear more than that from their own parents. They need to stop censuring to the point of killing all interest, let parents be parents and leave the parental controls for the parents to control. I certainly don't want to be watching general tv and find myself staring at some naked person, but if there's a pre-warning of that (our tv has a guidance alert in the form of ratings for most things that come on), then at least I can expect it.

My favorite games, for that matter (on console only) are the Elder Scrolls (Skyrim) and Gallop Racer (similar to HWO, but centered on thoroughbred racing only). There's a couple others, only RPG really. I was essentially raised on Final Fantasy. My father still has the very original game. It's tedious for me to play that one anymore, but at times even that turn-base can be fun. I haven't played them in a while either. Skyrim p*sses me off at times with freezing. I know the fix, it's easy to fix really, it's just so annoying to HAVE to fix it! Gallop Racer is on the playstation console, no problems with that one. But you can't kill anything on that one! Not nearly as much genetic fun as HWO is.

[Nazarach]

To each their own, you know that well, I'm sure.
I'm all right with harem-style anime, but I like the reverse a little better (I've watched a few of them, although well written with good characters, usually, watching anything a second time, let alone third and beyond, just isn't something I'm interested in, so I might enjoy them, but they don't move into favorite categories).
Loveless the anime, at least, really isn't that bad, it's more mild to medium sadist, masochist instead of torture-like, slave-master like it comes across when people right the synopsis. There was one that I just watched that was much crueler... I didn't like it too much, so that's probably why I don't recall the name now. Loveless is relatively safe, a PG-13 style. But whether you'll like it or not, that's a good question. I think people generally either love it, or hate it, there's no gray line with that anime. I'd have to say that it leans more toward yaoi then it does toward cruelty abuse, but maybe my definitions for anime are a little skewed. The second season, what I recall of that is quite a bit darker, but then again, I haven't watched it in years.
Fruits Basket may be a bit too childish for your tastes, but I think still worth a watch, if only because it is, quite funny at times.
And just to warn you one more, your lie in april, if I recall correctly is really slow. I think I need to watch that one again sometime, I really can't remember much of it at all.

I get so tired of the censures. Nowadays it's getting seriously bad, so to the point that I've stopped watching a lot of tv shows and movies. It's almost boring when you're watching a movie or a show and the people are wearing bathing suits, yet if ANY of the butt is showing at all, there's suddenly a big blow of smudge, this also happens with any side-* at all, often for any cleavage... I'm sounding biased right now on women, but I'm sure I don't have to express that they never show anything for a man either, no butt crack at all. hmm... Kids see more than that just walking to school. They hear more than that from their own parents. They need to stop censuring to the point of killing all interest, let parents be parents and leave the parental controls for the parents to control. I certainly don't want to be watching general tv and find myself staring at some naked person, but if there's a pre-warning of that (our tv has a guidance alert in the form of ratings for most things that come on), then at least I can expect it.

My favorite games, for that matter (on console only) are the Elder Scrolls (Skyrim) and Gallop Racer (similar to HWO, but centered on thoroughbred racing only). There's a couple others, only RPG really. I was essentially raised on Final Fantasy. My father still has the very original game. It's tedious for me to play that one anymore, but at times even that turn-base can be fun. I haven't played them in a while either. Skyrim p*sses me off at times with freezing. I know the fix, it's easy to fix really, it's just so annoying to HAVE to fix it! Gallop Racer is on the playstation console, no problems with that one. But you can't kill anything on that one! Not nearly as much genetic fun as HWO is.

I know it is biased, but revese style harem I'm completly ok with (if it is written well), visual novels might be something for you then (DraMatical Murder for example is relativly tame and still has such a good story/routes; togainu no chi even has an ova, but the game is much better; Sweet Pool is ... one of kind, harsh - but the story is intriguing; lamento - beyond the void was one of the best vns I've even seen :3)
I loke slowburn a lot when it's good written (and not frustrating to watch).
We seem to share a really similiar taste oO I still play skyrim and have over 400hours at least xD Dragon Age is a series I can also recomend (origins has the best story and romance-options; DA 2 has the best battle system and DA Inquisition is between both but very time-consuming when you are a competionist like me x) ); then there is the Dark Souls universe (this I can recommend to watch as a walkthrough - the lore is one of the most intriguing, the community toxic but creative, it has some of the most talented composers - official and fan-based - it is a really hard to play by youself though, with friends it is much more fun but...time is also a matter). I got into FF kind of late but I love the series, 7 is one of my favourites, but they all have good aspects <3 My only horse game I played (and still would if I could) is called 'Mein Pferderennstall' (My Racingstable) but it just had a small quantity and was never continued or rereleased... You could train racehorses and breed for stats and also take part in races where your could even watch when your stats came into play - it was challenging but reasonable, never found anything like it since

I read a manga where they debated over censoring methods for one absolutely perverted guy running around naked and it was hillarious, I cried tears reading it, - if sadly true, the censoring just made it look more awful than not xD In germany when it is later than 0am adult advertisments are commonly shown but they are even disturbing to me... and I know there are kids that stay awake much longer and their parents don't care...