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Curious about extreme pangare
I had this French trotter foal and he was born with really heavy pangare and now as a 3 year old has No pangare at all!? Here is a picture of his foal days:

And now as a three year old mature Stallion:
LM Sweet Heart

Also I know that he is Metallic chestnut I just want to know why he was so heavily pangare and left with none at all as an adult. I though maybe the metallic coat would be associated but my other Metallic horses were not born this way.
Thanks!
P.S he is also for stud for any people wanting to populate the French trotters

And now as a three year old mature Stallion:
LM Sweet Heart
Also I know that he is Metallic chestnut I just want to know why he was so heavily pangare and left with none at all as an adult. I though maybe the metallic coat would be associated but my other Metallic horses were not born this way.
Thanks!

P.S he is also for stud for any people wanting to populate the French trotters


Re: Curious about extreme pangare
Mealiness on foals is not determined based on the horse's pangare genes. It is simply an aspect of the foal coat. None of your horse's recent ancestors had visible pangare, so it makes sense that he doesn't have it either. (Also, as an aside, his dam is a Gold Champagne, not amber.)LlamaLlama99 wrote:I had this French trotter foal and he was born with really heavy pangare and now as a 3 year old has No pangare at all!? Here is a picture of his foal days:
And now as a three year old mature Stallion:
LM Sweet Heart
Also I know that he is Metallic chestnut I just want to know why he was so heavily pangare and left with none at all as an adult. I though maybe the metallic coat would be associated but my other Metallic horses were not born this way.
Thanks!
P.S he is also for stud for any people wanting to populate the French trotters

Re: Curious about extreme pangare
I didn’t think that I was just curios about why he had so much pangare as a foal like nearly his whole body. And I bought his dam and forgot to change it thatnks for reminding me thoPearl wrote:Mealiness on foals is not determined based on the horse's pangare genes. It is simply an aspect of the foal coat. None of your horse's recent ancestors had visible pangare, so it makes sense that he doesn't have it either. (Also, as an aside, his dam is a Gold Champagne, not amber.)LlamaLlama99 wrote:I had this French trotter foal and he was born with really heavy pangare and now as a 3 year old has No pangare at all!? Here is a picture of his foal days:
And now as a three year old mature Stallion:
LM Sweet Heart
Also I know that he is Metallic chestnut I just want to know why he was so heavily pangare and left with none at all as an adult. I though maybe the metallic coat would be associated but my other Metallic horses were not born this way.
Thanks!
P.S he is also for stud for any people wanting to populate the French trotters

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Re: Curious about extreme pangare
It appears to be a bit random, although I have noticed that it appears that foal pangare can be passed on from one generation to the next. Like I'll have very little, but very drastic pangare on newborn foals then all of a sudden I'll get the next generation with a foal coat that almost takes over the entire foal. Most of my foals are distinctly pangare, mutating to cream-white down their legs but are generally very gradient from their back-line down, meaning that they're red in color on top and fade to cream below.LlamaLlama99 wrote:I didn’t think that I was just curios about why he had so much pangare as a foal like nearly his whole body. And I bought his dam and forgot to change it thatnks for reminding me thoPearl wrote:
Mealiness on foals is not determined based on the horse's pangare genes. It is simply an aspect of the foal coat. None of your horse's recent ancestors had visible pangare, so it makes sense that he doesn't have it either. (Also, as an aside, his dam is a Gold Champagne, not amber.)

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Re: Curious about extreme pangare
I do know Bita was breeding total pangare horses. The extensive Pangare seems to be a trait of the more Pony/Draft type horses. She added some of my Soviets into her line at one point, and I did have one of her complete pangared horse at one point.
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