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Interesting Color

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This guy has me a little confused. I know my Trakheners carry the silver gene pretty strongly, but mostly they're bays and seal brown with buckskin, so I know there's some kind of crème or pearl gene (also he has a some-number-of greats- granddam who was perlino), but again, I have no idea what he is.
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Then there's this one: I'm guessing a bay dun roan? I know she's a roan, but I'm not positive about the dun.
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Re: Interesting Color

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Hidalgo wrote:This guy has me a little confused. I know my Trakheners carry the silver gene pretty strongly, but mostly they're bays and seal brown with buckskin, so I know there's some kind of crème or pearl gene (also he has a some-number-of greats- granddam who was perlino), but again, I have no idea what he is.


Then there's this one: I'm guessing a bay dun roan? I know she's a roan, but I'm not positive about the dun.
I'm weak on dilutes, but I think I have yours correct.

The stallion appears to be brown cream, so you're correct. Double cream on brown. Pearls can't hide when paired with cream and since there is cream on both sides of his line, he can't have a hidden pearl. He also carries pangare. However, I'm not sure about the silver gene. I would expect his mane and tail to be much more grayish in color, not bright cream as he appears.

The young filly is still a bit early to pin down. Her mother does seem to carry a very gentle expression of dun, but I don't see any indications on her. She is certainly bay and certainly roan. I don't see any pangare on her father, her mother may have a very gentle expression of that. The filly still carries foal pangare and that can last right up to the moment she blows her coat. I suspect that neither her mother nor she carries pangare. So a simple bay roan.
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Re: Interesting Color

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Hidalgo wrote:This guy has me a little confused. I know my Trakheners carry the silver gene pretty strongly, but mostly they're bays and seal brown with buckskin, so I know there's some kind of crème or pearl gene (also he has a some-number-of greats- granddam who was perlino), but again, I have no idea what he is.


Then there's this one: I'm guessing a bay dun roan? I know she's a roan, but I'm not positive about the dun.
I'm weak on dilutes, but I think I have yours correct.

The stallion appears to be brown cream, so you're correct. Double cream on brown. Pearls can't hide when paired with cream and since there is cream on both sides of his line, he can't have a hidden pearl. He also carries pangare. However, I'm not sure about the silver gene. I would expect his mane and tail to be much more grayish in color, not bright cream as he appears.
First boy most definitely has silver. The manes and tails on brown creams without silver are a darker, more gray-ish brown not the bright silver cream of this boy. :)

As examples, these two stallions are double-cream + silver and have very similar manes:





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Re: Interesting Color

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Hidalgo wrote:This guy has me a little confused. I know my Trakheners carry the silver gene pretty strongly, but mostly they're bays and seal brown with buckskin, so I know there's some kind of crème or pearl gene (also he has a some-number-of greats- granddam who was perlino), but again, I have no idea what he is.


Then there's this one: I'm guessing a bay dun roan? I know she's a roan, but I'm not positive about the dun.
I'm weak on dilutes, but I think I have yours correct.

The stallion appears to be brown cream, so you're correct. Double cream on brown. Pearls can't hide when paired with cream and since there is cream on both sides of his line, he can't have a hidden pearl. He also carries pangare. However, I'm not sure about the silver gene. I would expect his mane and tail to be much more grayish in color, not bright cream as he appears.

The young filly is still a bit early to pin down. Her mother does seem to carry a very gentle expression of dun, but I don't see any indications on her. She is certainly bay and certainly roan. I don't see any pangare on her father, her mother may have a very gentle expression of that. The filly still carries foal pangare and that can last right up to the moment she blows her coat. I suspect that neither her mother nor she carries pangare. So a simple bay roan.
Thanks!!!
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Re: Interesting Color

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Silverine wrote:

First boy most definitely has silver. The manes and tails on brown creams without silver are a darker, more gray-ish brown not the bright silver cream of this boy. :)

As examples, these two stallions are double-cream + silver and have very similar manes:





Good to know, thanks!

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