What causes this?

[Silverine]

I've seen this effect before, but I'm not sure what causes it. Is it flaxen or pangare? This is on a bay horse, and I didn't think flaxen affected bays, but I also didn't think pangare affected manes or tails. Any answers?

[Baranduin Brewster]

I've seen this effect before, but I'm not sure what causes it. Is it flaxen or pangare? This is on a bay horse, and I didn't think flaxen affected bays, but I also didn't think pangare affected manes or tails. Any answers?

I have several, like this in fact...and believe it is a dun expression.

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Somewhere I have a topic on this very thing...it is predominant with FJords (IRL), which is why it is seen on only bays so far.

[Totina]

I've seen this effect before, but I'm not sure what causes it. Is it flaxen or pangare? This is on a bay horse, and I didn't think flaxen affected bays, but I also didn't think pangare affected manes or tails. Any answers?

I have several, like this in fact...and believe it is a dun expression.

Horses Name


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Somewhere I have a topic on this very thing...it is predominant with FJords (IRL), which is why it is seen on only bays so far.

It is definitely not flaxen since flaxen is only visible on chestnut.
It is also not caused by dun as you can't see any other signs of dun on the AC caspian in the first post and the second horse Baranduin Brewster linked. AC caspians don't carry the dun gene, which makes it clear that the effect is not connected to dun.

Whatever it is it also causes the mane and tail to be lighter but I don't know of any well known genes that would be a possible cause to the effects seen it these horses.

[Baranduin Brewster]

I've seen this effect before, but I'm not sure what causes it. Is it flaxen or pangare? This is on a bay horse, and I didn't think flaxen affected bays, but I also didn't think pangare affected manes or tails. Any answers?

I have several, like this in fact...and believe it is a dun expression.

Horses Name


Horses Name


Somewhere I have a topic on this very thing...it is predominant with FJords (IRL), which is why it is seen on only bays so far.

It is definitely not flaxen since flaxen is only visible on chestnut.
It is also not caused by dun as you can't see any other signs of dun on the AC caspian in the first post and the second horse Baranduin Brewster linked. AC caspians don't carry the dun gene, which makes it clear that the effect is not connected to dun.

Whatever it is it also causes the mane and tail to be lighter but I don't know of any well known genes that would be a possible cause to the effects seen it these horses.

I found this horse that is from two AC Caspian horses, it looks dun to me

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/757067

I do know there are times when dun traits cannot be found out until other outside factors come into play, like Lp.

[Totina]

I found this horse that is from two AC Caspian horses, it looks dun to me

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/757067

Okay, then dun exists in caspians, even though I haven't seen them earlier. But still, the effect with lighter legs and maines/tails is most likely not caused by dun since there are no other signs of dun in the horses (like a dorsal stripe and lighter coloured coat overall).

[Baranduin Brewster]

I found this horse that is from two AC Caspian horses, it looks dun to me

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/757067

Okay, then dun exists in caspians, even though I haven't seen them earlier. But still, the effect with lighter legs and maines/tails is most likely not caused by dun since there are no other signs of dun in the horses (like a dorsal stripe and lighter coloured coat overall).

Maybe its just a form of Primitive Markings, its just odd that all of the ones I've had so far have come from Dun lines.

[Totina]

Maybe its just a form of Primitive Markings, its just odd that all of the ones I've had so far have come from Dun lines.

That's possible. It could just be a coincidence that the markings came from dun horses in your lines from the start. The AC caspian linked in the first post here shows no other signs of dun, which makes me believe that the markings are caused by a gene similar to pangare and sooty.

What would be interesting to know though is if it is visible on other kinds of coat colours like brown, black and chestnut or if it is something connected to bay/wild bay only.

[Baranduin Brewster]

Maybe its just a form of Primitive Markings, its just odd that all of the ones I've had so far have come from Dun lines.

That's possible. It could just be a coincidence that the markings came from dun horses in your lines from the start. The AC caspian linked in the first post here shows no other signs of dun, which makes me believe that the markings are caused by a gene similar to pangare and sooty.

What would be interesting to know though is if it is visible on other kinds of coat colours like brown, black and chestnut or if it is something connected to bay/wild bay only.

I've tried to get it to transfer on to other colors, without any success.

Bita was also working on this to test that out

[Totina]

I've tried to get it to transfer on to other colors, without any success.

Bita was also working on this to test that out

Then perhaps it is either only visible on bay or it is a variation of bay, like there are different shades of bay already (darker, lighter etc).

[Baranduin Brewster]

I've tried to get it to transfer on to other colors, without any success.

Bita was also working on this to test that out

Then perhaps it is either only visible on bay or it is a variation of bay, like there are different shades of bay already (darker, lighter etc).

I also, found reference in the forums where dun was suppose to cause different colors in the mane/tail