Pinging Baraduin regarding pearl

[Nazarach]

Pearls Post

(Hope this works)

Hi, you posted a 'pearl' Topic, and there was this one Apricot Champagne you had there, that looked exactly like one of mine and I'm pretty sure he has silver - as does yours (probably) when you go back 4 to 5 Generations... or does the mane always look so pure White when it's apricot?
I wanted to ask you because it Looks like you have a lot more experience with chestnuts and Pearl - and I struggle everytime it's in combination... -.-
This isn't meant to offend you, but i think it is better to ask cause the pearls are a tricky kind...

The twin/carbon copy of the apricot champagne of yours i meant:
Hyo Tetsu


yours:

Apricot Champagne

[Baranduin Brewster]

Pearls Post

(Hope this works)

Hi, you posted a 'pearl' Topic, and there was this one Apricot Champagne you had there, that looked exactly like one of mine and I'm pretty sure he has silver - as does yours (probably) when you go back 4 to 5 Generations... or does the mane always look so pure White when it's apricot?
I wanted to ask you because it Looks like you have a lot more experience with chestnuts and Pearl - and I struggle everytime it's in combination... -.-
This isn't meant to offend you, but i think it is better to ask cause the pearls are a tricky kind...

The twin/carbon copy of the apricot champagne of yours i meant:
Hyo Tetsu


yours:

Apricot Champagne

I thought it was black based at first myself, but the white mane/tail is the giveaway...All chestnuts (with cream) the mane/tail appear as white vs an off white.

We can also, reason it....

If it was bay based, I would expect points to be different color.

If brown, I would expect some sort of color in the warmspots.

If black, I would expect some trace of color to be in the mane/tail. Also, Silver would change the body color to red/yellow (for the lack of better color definition)

That leave Chestnut as the only option...

Also, every single foal he has produced is chestnut based (to the best of my knowledge), even the majority of foals they produced were chestnut based. It took a lot of effort to work bay into my Walkers.

Also, look into your dams parentage you find chestnut based horses.

[Nazarach]

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I thought it was black based at first myself, but the white mane/tail is the giveaway...All chestnuts (with cream) the mane/tail appear as white vs an off white.

We can also, reason it....

If it was bay based, I would expect points to be different color.

If brown, I would expect some sort of color in the warmspots.

If black, I would expect some trace of color to be in the mane/tail

That leave Chestnut as the only option...

Also, every single foal he has produced is chestnut based (to the best of my knowledge), even the majority of foals they produced were chestnut based. It took a lot of effort to work bay into my Walkers.

I agree, crossing the brown out was obvious, the legs seem a touch lighter but in my line the Agouti would've been less of an option... the black dillutes don't have mealy foals so that was less likely as well - so chestnut is the only one left indeed.
The question was more intended to the silver option. It seemed to me that the white mane could've been silver originated, because Hyos sire was silver-originated and in yours it seemed possible the dams side also could've carried silver (in their Pictures the manes were rather short so it was hard to see); but how exactly do i differentiate a palomino (or other white-maned chestnut dillutes) from an palomino/e-dillute with silver?

[Baranduin Brewster]

I thought it was black based at first myself, but the white mane/tail is the giveaway...All chestnuts (with cream) the mane/tail appear as white vs an off white.

We can also, reason it....

If it was bay based, I would expect points to be different color.

If brown, I would expect some sort of color in the warmspots.

If black, I would expect some trace of color to be in the mane/tail

That leave Chestnut as the only option...

Also, every single foal he has produced is chestnut based (to the best of my knowledge), even the majority of foals they produced were chestnut based. It took a lot of effort to work bay into my Walkers.

I agree, crossing the brown out was obvious, the legs seem a touch lighter but in my line the Agouti would've been less of an option... the black dillutes don't have mealy foals so that was less likely as well - so chestnut is the only one left indeed.
The question was more intended to the silver option. It seemed to me that the white mane could've been silver originated, because Hyos sire was silver-originated and in yours it seemed possible the dams side also could've carried silver (in their Pictures the manes were rather short so it was hard to see); but how exactly do i differentiate a palomino (or other white-maned chestnut dillutes) from an palomino/e-dillute with silver?

I'm not understand the comparison with Palomino w/e-dillute with silver reference...

[Nazarach]

I'm not understand the comparison with Palomino w/e-dillute with silver reference...

i mean does silver show if it is a dillute, normaly it doesn't but is there any way to know/see without breeding if they carry the silver at all?

[Baranduin Brewster]

I'm not understand the comparison with Palomino w/e-dillute with silver reference...

i mean does silver show if it is a dillute, normaly it doesn't but is there any way to know/see without breeding if they carry the silver at all?

No the silver doesn't show, and yes you'd have to breed to see if the silver is carried. However there does seem to be a double silver in game indicator in the parents, so if that is the case then it would be possible to say it is carried.

[Nazarach]

i mean does silver show if it is a dillute, normaly it doesn't but is there any way to know/see without breeding if they carry the silver at all?

No the silver doesn't show, and yes you'd have to breed to see if the silver is carried.

figures, another one as a side Project *sigh*

Well, many thanks though for clearing that up ^^

[Baranduin Brewster]

No the silver doesn't show, and yes you'd have to breed to see if the silver is carried.

figures, another one as a side Project *sigh*

Well, many thanks though for clearing that up ^^

Tell me about it, that might come around quick for myself, I do have a possible double Silver that I need to check for the pearl gene anyways, I might need to drag her on over.

[Nazarach]

figures, another one as a side Project *sigh*

Well, many thanks though for clearing that up ^^

Tell me about it, that might come around quick for myself, I do have a possible double Silver that I need to check for the pearl gene anyways, I might need to drag her on over.

My condolences, if you ever need a chestnut with no agouti for breeding confirmations, i have one mare that i can share when she's grown http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1289518

[Baranduin Brewster]

Tell me about it, that might come around quick for myself, I do have a possible double Silver that I need to check for the pearl gene anyways, I might need to drag her on over.

My condolences, if you ever need a chestnut with no agouti for breeding confirmations, i have one mare that i can share when she's grown http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1289518

Thanks, I actually have my original Don line that have no agouti (and no silver) and Trakes with no silver.