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PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
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Re: PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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DragonHorse!!!! wrote:I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
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No he isn't a palomino dapple.

Silver Dapples will only show on a black based horse, I also expect your horse might carry double pearl (have another person verify this).

If this is the case then your horse would be a Black Pearl Champagne.

Normally, the silver gene on black yellows a coat (besides possibly producing dapples). Pearl, tends to make a horse look more chocolately.
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Re: PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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DragonHorse!!!! wrote:I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
Betty Genius
Actually, I would think Silver amber champagne.

Silver makes the dapples and the grey mane. Some people do confuse silver manes with flaxen or just lighter manes in palomino and cremello. The silver allele is Z.

Silver on bay


Amber champagne is a bay base (Black (E) and agouti (A)) and champagne dilution. (Ch) Champagne lightens the coat and makes a mottled or freckled muzzle and some around the eye. Bay is a brown base with black mane , tail and ‘points’ on the legs ears and muzzle. I am not completely sure about the amber champagne because of the lightness of him but silver dilutes so it is a possibility. Or maybe gold champagne (chestnut base).

Normal Amber Champagne (no silver)


Normal Gold champagne


I am not ceartain about amber or go,d (leaning towards gold) but definitely silver.
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Re: PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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Baranduin Brewster wrote:
DragonHorse!!!! wrote:I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
Betty Genius
No he isn't a palomino dapple.

Silver Dapples will only show on a black based horse, I also expect your horse might carry double pearl (have another person verify this).

If this is the case then your horse would be a Black Pearl Champagne.

Normally, the silver gene on black yellows a coat (besides possibly producing dapples). Pearl, tends to make a horse look more chocolately.
Thank you very much, that was helpful!!
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Re: PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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LlamaLlama99 wrote:
DragonHorse!!!! wrote:I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
Betty Genius
Actually, I would think Silver amber champagne.

Silver makes the dapples and the grey mane. Some people do confuse silver manes with flaxen or just lighter manes in palomino and cremello. The silver allele is Z.

Silver on bay


Amber champagne is a bay base (Black (E) and agouti (A)) and champagne dilution. (Ch) Champagne lightens the coat and makes a mottled or freckled muzzle and some around the eye. Bay is a brown base with black mane , tail and ‘points’ on the legs ears and muzzle. I am not completely sure about the amber champagne because of the lightness of him but silver dilutes so it is a possibility. Or maybe gold champagne (chestnut base).

Normal Amber Champagne (no silver)


Normal Gold champagne


I am not ceartain about amber or go,d (leaning towards gold) but definitely silver.
Thank you!! I will be sure to correct that!!
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Re: PALOMINO DAPPLE!! {I think}

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DragonHorse!!!! wrote:I was just looking at one of my Belgians, and, I think one has dapples!! Here he is!! He's a Palomino Dapple, right???
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Jumping in here because I actually have a horse that's the same color as yours, and know for sure what color she is:




Both of these horses are Silver Classic Champagne (black + silver + champagne).

Your colt's sire is Silver Amber Champagne with pangare, his dam is Flaxen Chestnut. Your colt inherited the silver and champagne from his sire, along with a dominant extension gene (E). We know he has champagne because of the freckles around his eye and on his muzzle, and we know he is black based because he has dapples all over (and they are much too light to be caused by sooty) and dapples from silver will only show on black pigment.

And if you're curious, your other foal by the same stallion is Silver Classic Cream (black + silver + champagne + 1xcream).

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