What Colors?

[4Ftraining]

Does anyone know what colors these two are?

Alee


His dam has the same color, and his grandsire was amber cream champagne dun, so I initially thought he was amber cream champagne dun with the addition of silver. However, his mane and tail color are different from some other silver ACCD horses I've seen...

Red Lady


She looks a little like silver smoky cream with some other factor on top of that, but again I'm not sure.

[BlackOak2]

Does anyone know what colors these two are?


His dam has the same color, and his grandsire was amber cream champagne dun, so I initially thought he was amber cream champagne dun with the addition of silver. However, his mane and tail color are different from some other silver ACCD horses I've seen...



She looks a little like silver smoky cream with some other factor on top of that, but again I'm not sure.

Dilutes are not my strong point, but here goes.

Alee is double pearl. And so is his dam. Cream offers blue eyes with two genes and blue eyes when paired with pearl, but pearl (which stays hidden with just one gene), offers a similar color like cream, but always offers dark eyes. He's just too light to have only one cream gene, regardless of being paired with a champagne. Alee, on the other had, has a tiger eye gene, most likely from his father (since dam also has champagne, she would have offered the tiger eye color if she had it). He also has champagne, from his mother. I would agree that he also has silver, from his dam. I am not sure what's going on with his lower legs, dun could be responsible, so could pangare, it could also be from the silver.

Red Lady appears to be flaxen gold champagne with pangare. I think she is much more straightforward. She can either be red based or black based, so any agouti is already ruled out (I'm going off of her parents, though I have no clue about her father, his color is certainly unique). I could be wrong with the pangare, but I'm under the impression that this is why her color is lighter than the average gold champagne.
On second thought, perhaps not. It could be flaxen that's causing the lighter legs and she has to have one cream gene I think.

If I'm really far off, I'm usually corrected.

[4Ftraining]

Does anyone know what colors these two are?


His dam has the same color, and his grandsire was amber cream champagne dun, so I initially thought he was amber cream champagne dun with the addition of silver. However, his mane and tail color are different from some other silver ACCD horses I've seen...



She looks a little like silver smoky cream with some other factor on top of that, but again I'm not sure.

Dilutes are not my strong point, but here goes.

Alee is double pearl. And so is his dam. Cream offers blue eyes with two genes and blue eyes when paired with pearl, but pearl (which stays hidden with just one gene), offers a similar color like cream, but always offers dark eyes. He's just too light to have only one cream gene, regardless of being paired with a champagne. Alee, on the other had, has a tiger eye gene, most likely from his father (since dam also has champagne, she would have offered the tiger eye color if she had it). He also has champagne, from his mother. I would agree that he also has silver, from his dam. I am not sure what's going on with his lower legs, dun could be responsible, so could pangare, it could also be from the silver.

Red Lady appears to be flaxen gold champagne with pangare. I think she is much more straightforward. She can either be red based or black based, so any agouti is already ruled out (I'm going off of her parents, though I have no clue about her father, his color is certainly unique). I could be wrong with the pangare, but I'm under the impression that this is why her color is lighter than the average gold champagne.
On second thought, perhaps not. It could be flaxen that's causing the lighter legs and she has to have one cream gene I think.

If I'm really far off, I'm usually corrected.

Thank you so much for the help! I'm so surprised by the pearl, I had no idea that was in there anywhere What luck!