Competition system improvement and minor suggestions

[Farant]

I do believe the bug isn't about the money only. It lets you gain the points as well. If we want to fix the bug, we need to do some changes. The points have to matter!

[Argent]

They use it, it's just that I first guessed to do it on such a scale, partly to show that something needs to be done about this.

No. Continuing to exploit a bug after you've found it is not how you show something needs to be done to fix it. That's how you create an even bigger problem and mess for the admins to clean up.

Points do not have intrinsic value just because they are extracted as artificially as money. If everything worked as it should - they would intrinsic. And given that it was your horses that for a long time were the reason why fighting for the top did not make sense - it seems to me that you are making excuses.

Points have no value because they cannot be used to purchase anything in-game. Inflated point are irrelevant because they contribute to nothing. Worst case scenario, you screw with the PPS system, which is probably much easier to correct than widespread economic imbalance.

And given that it was your horses that for a long time were the reason why fighting for the top did not make sense - it seems to me that you are making excuses.

Making excuses for what, exactly? Testing what I thought was a bug in show payouts, and then asking the admin to delete the offending show, only to find that was more work that it's worth?

Competitions are the main way to earn money and one of the main reasons to breed horses in this game.

Competitions are not the main way to make money, not without you and company bloating the earnings.

[Bombicilla]

They use it, it's just that I first guessed to do it on such a scale, partly to show that something needs to be done about this.

No. Continuing to exploit a bug after you've found it is not how you show something needs to be done to fix it. That's how you create an even bigger problem and mess for the admins to clean up.

Points do not have intrinsic value just because they are extracted as artificially as money. If everything worked as it should - they would intrinsic. And given that it was your horses that for a long time were the reason why fighting for the top did not make sense - it seems to me that you are making excuses.

Points have no value because they cannot be used to purchase anything in-game. Inflated point are irrelevant because they contribute to nothing. Worst case scenario, you screw with the PPS system, which is probably much easier to correct than widespread economic imbalance.

And given that it was your horses that for a long time were the reason why fighting for the top did not make sense - it seems to me that you are making excuses.

Making excuses for what, exactly? Testing what I thought was a bug in show payouts, and then asking the admin to delete the offending show, only to find that was more work that it's worth?

Competitions are the main way to earn money and one of the main reasons to breed horses in this game.

Competitions are not the main way to make money, not without you and company bloating the earnings.

I do not use this error. More precisely: it is used in general by every player who has competitions.

Your horses with 90k points are still hanging in the top. To get into the top you need to either use a bug or a flaw with an endless recording for the competition. And yes, considering that when recording a large number of horses the competitions start right away (10-20 minutes, I did not notice exactly) that a foreign horse has virtually no chance of getting on them.

The trick is that this bug does not bring a serious economic coup because of the lack thereof . Do you know how I earned my first million for "cheating" competitions? I won it. Do you know how I earned money for the entry fee? I won them. Fair. It's me, I'm trying to lead you to the idea that competitions are the main part of the game and an important part of the economy. Because without them there are contests for the most beautiful horse

Therefore while they work crookedly - all works crookedly, so it is not necessary to make of me a monster-cheater.

(By the way, before the opening of the bug, I also had no problems with money. After howses it not difficult to survive here.)

[Farant]

That's how you create an even bigger problem and mess for the admins to clean up.

Well, the admins are really not paying that much attention to this bug. I can easily find the topic from the spring where this bug was clearly explained. Nothing's done!

Here it is. Explained by Bombicilla.http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 578#p39578

And about points. You're absolutely wrong when you're saying it has no meaning. It can give you the top position, popularity and long list of customers if you're selling your horses or studs. It can do a lot of good if properly used. You're trying to lower its importance, and I don't think it's the right thing to do. I will not start a holy war, it's not the right place for it.

[Argent]

Your horses with 90k points are still hanging in the top. To get into the top you need to either use a bug or a flaw with an endless recording for the competition. And yes, considering that when recording a large number of horses the competitions start right away (10-20 minutes, I did not notice exactly) that a foreign horse has virtually no chance of getting on them.

Wow, if the only way you can think of to get to the top is cheating, you have a problem and you're a giant red flag.

[Argent]

Well, the admins are really not paying that much attention to this bug. I can easily find the topic from the spring where this bug was clearly explained. Nothing's done!

Here it is. Explained by Bombicilla.http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 578#p39578

And about points. You're absolutely wrong when you're saying it has no meaning. It can give you the top position, popularity and long list of customers if you're selling your horses or studs. It can do a lot of good if properly used. You're trying to lower its importance, and I don't think it's the right thing to do. I will not start a holy war, it's not the right place for it.

Way to be ungrateful. The admins have a life outside of this game, a family, and careers.

And if people are gullible enough to not go through the competition histories and see that all of those earnings, points, and titles were earned in bloated shows, then I don't have much sympathy for them getting conned. I'm not trying to lower the importance of points -- they have no importance to lower. They're too easily won and too easily manipulated and that makes them worthless.

[Bombicilla]

Your horses with 90k points are still hanging in the top. To get into the top you need to either use a bug or a flaw with an endless recording for the competition. And yes, considering that when recording a large number of horses the competitions start right away (10-20 minutes, I did not notice exactly) that a foreign horse has virtually no chance of getting on them.

Wow, if the only way you can think of to get to the top is cheating, you have a problem and you're a giant red flag.

Yes, the game put us in such conditions. And about it already there was a theme with analysis of honesty of a set of such points. You used to dissuade yourself saying "everyone can come and beat my horses" and I agreed with this because I did not know about the bug (I do not know if this is a bug, explain to me plz) with the start of the competition. But now I know and I can clearly say that you used it.

But okay, now these records are broken. I was not interested in these horses, but I believe that they were broken by a long and stubborn recording. And then we run into another problem: an endless recording. As a result, the other two tops will not be the best horse, but the oldest horse. Even if at some point the champions are better than her, they will have to sooooo long to beat this record if they ever want to. Thus, all three tops are dead. Therefore, probably now there is such a war for world records, which can not be faked.

Now let's return to the question of money. In the spring, you were 1 in the top on scores and you admitted that it was an error test. Okay, say, I believe. So my research on sorrows was also a kind of test. And since spring, I DO NOT DO ANYTHING to multiply my money. It increases simply because of the work of the bug. The problem is that my "cheating" is noticeable, because I wanted to do so. But I'm sure, the same thing turns out a lot of players (especially after the voice acting of how this bug works), but on a smaller scale. Therefore, money has long been not a problem for anyone. They are as much a fiction as points.

And I repeat, EVERYONE who has a competition uses this bug, because the money for the purse is not removed, and the owner also receives % of the tickets.

If you want the bugs not to be used, remove them. Because it will not be such that no one will use them while they exist.

[Bombicilla]

Wow, if the only way you can think of to get to the top is cheating, you have a problem and you're a giant red flag.

Yes, the game put us in such conditions. And about it already there was a theme with analysis of honesty of a set of such points. You used to dissuade yourself saying "everyone can come and beat my horses" and I agreed with this because I did not know about the bug (I do not know if this is a bug, explain to me plz) with the start of the competition. But now I know and I can clearly say that you used it.

But okay, now these records are broken. I was not interested in these horses, but I believe that they were broken by a long and stubborn recording. And then we run into another problem: an endless recording. As a result, the other two tops will not be the best horse, but the oldest horse. Even if at some point the champions are better than her, they will have to sooooo long to beat this record if they ever want to. Thus, all three tops are dead. Therefore, probably now there is such a war for world records, which can not be faked.

Now let's return to the question of money. In the spring, you were 1 in the top on scores and you admitted that it was an error test. Okay, say, I believe. So my research on earnings was also a kind of test. And since spring, I DO NOT DO ANYTHING to multiply my money. It increases simply because of the work of the bug. The problem is that my "cheating" is noticeable, because I wanted to do so. But I'm sure, the same thing turns out a lot of players (especially after the voice acting of how this bug works), but on a smaller scale. Therefore, money has long been not a problem for anyone. They are as much a fiction as points.

And I repeat, EVERYONE who has a competition uses this bug, because the money for the purse is not removed, and the owner also receives % of the tickets.

If you want the bugs not to be used, remove them. Because it will not be such that no one will use them while they exist.

[Farant]

Well, the admins are really not paying that much attention to this bug. I can easily find the topic from the spring where this bug was clearly explained. Nothing's done!

Here it is. Explained by Bombicilla.http://www.horseworldonline.net/forum/v ... 578#p39578

And about points. You're absolutely wrong when you're saying it has no meaning. It can give you the top position, popularity and long list of customers if you're selling your horses or studs. It can do a lot of good if properly used. You're trying to lower its importance, and I don't think it's the right thing to do. I will not start a holy war, it's not the right place for it.

Way to be ungrateful. The admins have a life outside of this game, a family, and careers.

And if people are gullible enough to not go through the competition histories and see that all of those earnings, points, and titles were earned in bloated shows, then I don't have much sympathy for them getting conned. I'm not trying to lower the importance of points -- they have no importance to lower. They're too easily won and too easily manipulated and4 that makes them worthless.

Why am I being ungrateful? It has nothing to do with gratitude. It is a project which needs to be mantained properly. Everyone can be on my place. Or you're trying to say the community should beg for the bug to be fixed?

Bloated points and winnings should be removed.

[texí]

I don't like this idea, I put horses into competitions from my freeze account and it would be impossible for me to have horses with titles, you could also say the breeding should take some energy too, but that would ruin the game, everything above master champion would be totally impossible.