Any Ideas of What Color This Horse is?

[FoxTrotStables]

I've had this horse as a foal and my opinion of his color keeps changing as he gets older. I want to say his base color is some sort of grulla but he has soft red spots on him... Does anyone know what he is?

Here he is:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/939255

[BlackOak2]

I've had this horse as a foal and my opinion of his color keeps changing as he gets older. I want to say his base color is some sort of grulla but he has soft red spots on him... Does anyone know what he is?

Here he is:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/939255

As a pre-note: appaloosa patterning (the leopard complex) horse's will change throughout there lifetime... it is annoying, amusing and interesting all at the same time.

Your colt looks to be a silver brown dun pangare with an appaloosa blanket.
However, the pangare is sometimes a little difficult to distinguish, so I'm not sure exactly where it came from. I don't see it on his father, it's usually hidden on black coats (from his mother), but I don't really see it through her parents either, but that's as far back as I went.

But it's definitely brown base, with dun and silver (and of course appaloosa gene).

[FoxTrotStables]

I've had this horse as a foal and my opinion of his color keeps changing as he gets older. I want to say his base color is some sort of grulla but he has soft red spots on him... Does anyone know what he is?

Here he is:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/939255

As a pre-note: appaloosa patterning (the leopard complex) horse's will change throughout there lifetime... it is annoying, amusing and interesting all at the same time.

Your colt looks to be a silver brown dun pangare with an appaloosa blanket.
However, the pangare is sometimes a little difficult to distinguish, so I'm not sure exactly where it came from. I don't see it on his father, it's usually hidden on black coats (from his mother), but I don't really see it through her parents either, but that's as far back as I went.

But it's definitely brown base, with dun and silver (and of course appaloosa gene).

I think you're right, thank you!

[Raikit]

As a pre-note: appaloosa patterning (the leopard complex) horse's will change throughout there lifetime... it is annoying, amusing and interesting all at the same time.

Your colt looks to be a silver brown dun pangare with an appaloosa blanket.
However, the pangare is sometimes a little difficult to distinguish, so I'm not sure exactly where it came from. I don't see it on his father, it's usually hidden on black coats (from his mother), but I don't really see it through her parents either, but that's as far back as I went.

But it's definitely brown base, with dun and silver (and of course appaloosa gene).

I think you're right, thank you!

Just wanted to note that this boy does not actually have pangare. His foal coat showed some mealy but he grew out of it. If he still had it as an adult the red areas on him would actually have been yellow-ish like you would see on a smoky brown.

[texí]

I've had this horse as a foal and my opinion of his color keeps changing as he gets older. I want to say his base color is some sort of grulla but he has soft red spots on him... Does anyone know what he is?

Here he is:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/939255

I see no pangaré at all, this is just what the "brown" phenotype does. Looks silver bay dun spotted blanket.

[Raikit]

I've had this horse as a foal and my opinion of his color keeps changing as he gets older. I want to say his base color is some sort of grulla but he has soft red spots on him... Does anyone know what he is?

Here he is:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/939255

I see no pangaré at all, this is just what the "brown" phenotype does. Looks silver bay dun spotted blanket.

Bay and brown are two distinct colors. Looking at the foal and yearling photos this horse is actually brown-based, not bay-based. As he's aged the appaloosa bronzing effect has caused his black areas to turn slightly coppery, giving him more of a bay-based appearance, but his base color is still brown.

[texí]

I see no pangaré at all, this is just what the "brown" phenotype does. Looks silver bay dun spotted blanket.

Bay and brown are two distinct colors. Looking at the foal and yearling photos this horse is actually brown-based, not bay-based. As he's aged the appaloosa bronzing effect has caused his black areas to turn slightly coppery, giving him more of a bay-based appearance, but his base color is still brown.

I know in this game it is different, I just go by genotype, which is the same ... bay/brown is the same as sorrel/chestnut..

[Bitapetrone]

Many use sorrel/chestnut interchangeably, but brown (seal brown) and bay are different both here and in real life.

[Raikit]

Bay and brown are two distinct colors. Looking at the foal and yearling photos this horse is actually brown-based, not bay-based. As he's aged the appaloosa bronzing effect has caused his black areas to turn slightly coppery, giving him more of a bay-based appearance, but his base color is still brown.

I know in this game it is different, I just go by genotype, which is the same ... bay/brown is the same as sorrel/chestnut..

Bay and brown are different both phenotypically AND genotypically. Bay is A/A, A/A+, A/at, A/a. Wild bay is A+/A+, A+/at, or A+/a. Brown is at/at or at/a. Black is a/a. Bay is dominant over brown and black. Brown is recessive to bay but dominant to black. Black is recessive to bay and brown.

[texí]

I know in this game it is different, I just go by genotype, which is the same ... bay/brown is the same as sorrel/chestnut..

Bay and brown are different both phenotypically AND genotypically. Bay is A/A, A/A+, A/at, A/a. Wild bay is A+/A+, A+/at, or A+/a. Brown is at/at or at/a. Black is a/a. Bay is dominant over brown and black. Brown is recessive to bay but dominant to black. Black is recessive to bay and brown.

The "at" tests were fake, there is no difference between bay and brown genetically and if there is, it is unknown.