Question about breeding
So I'm working on adding higher HGP and golds/greens into my line of Warmbloods and am using my plentiful of superior Arabians to do so. Obviously that gives me 50% Danish Warmblood x Arabian crosses. When I'm satisfied with the results, how would I go breeding back to pure without losing the higher GP and golds/greens? Could I breed the 50% crosses together to get back to purebred or no? I only have 1 purebred Danish mare, should I breed her to the only Danish stud on the market to get some more fillies?
When I first started this project, I started with Forest Horse mares and just crossed them with the stud on the market until I was back to pure so they are quite inbred. (And I wasn't worried about getting higher GP/colored stats at the time) Lol sorry if this question doesn't make sense
but I hope somebody can help me out!
When I first started this project, I started with Forest Horse mares and just crossed them with the stud on the market until I was back to pure so they are quite inbred. (And I wasn't worried about getting higher GP/colored stats at the time) Lol sorry if this question doesn't make sense
but I hope somebody can help me out!
Re: Question about breeding
Your filly Unnamed Horse #946913 (Arabian x Danish Warmblood) has good stats!
Try breeding the pure mare to the pure stallion and see what you get. But use #946913 as well.
If each of the breeding pair has the desired breed listed first/only, you can keep increasing to purebred. Sometimes the computer helps by adding 5% to the dominant breed in a cross.
I bred an (Arabian x Forest Horse) mare to a famous pure Arabian, [NYR] Beyond Gold. (Her parents were good quality but both came from the Adoption Centre.) Well, wow -- the colt was handsome and talented and the computer called him 80% Arabian rather than the 75% he really is. 95% x 100% should give you a 100% foal.
High COIs often go along with more Golds and Greens -- the trick is to inbreed with high quality. Mediocre to mediocre just gets you more mediocre. And mediocre (or worse) can diminish good in one generation -- can't always tell whether the better of the pair is going to elevate the foal's quality or get overwhelmed by "meh".
Grade horses can add quality without changing the original breed identity, though they will dilute the proportion. I once bred a Grade stallion, who evaluated 5/5 for American Saddlebred, to my 95% Saddlebred mare. (The only choices in her breed were her sire and grandsire, and both were ordinary.) The result was a pretty good foal, better than the backcross would have given.
Another breeding with that mare and a pure ASB not so closely related gave a "American Saddlebred 100% (1)" -- first generation pure. He's a good colt.
It would take time and effort to create more Danish Warmbloods from scratch by breeding the last part of the recipe: (Thoroughbred x Frederiksborg) to Trakehner. Have you ever done this?
In "Stallions at Stud" hhere are some pretty good Thoroughbreds, 40 to 50K HGPs with varying numbers of golds and greens. Also some good Trakehners. There are only 2 Frederiksborg stallions.
At the moment there are no Trakehner or Frederiksborg mares for sale in a reasonable age range (4 - 16); no (TB x Frederiksborg) mares either. 2 decent pure TB mares a few minutes ago, however.
Best wishes, and I hope some of that is useful!
Try breeding the pure mare to the pure stallion and see what you get. But use #946913 as well.
If each of the breeding pair has the desired breed listed first/only, you can keep increasing to purebred. Sometimes the computer helps by adding 5% to the dominant breed in a cross.
I bred an (Arabian x Forest Horse) mare to a famous pure Arabian, [NYR] Beyond Gold. (Her parents were good quality but both came from the Adoption Centre.) Well, wow -- the colt was handsome and talented and the computer called him 80% Arabian rather than the 75% he really is. 95% x 100% should give you a 100% foal.
High COIs often go along with more Golds and Greens -- the trick is to inbreed with high quality. Mediocre to mediocre just gets you more mediocre. And mediocre (or worse) can diminish good in one generation -- can't always tell whether the better of the pair is going to elevate the foal's quality or get overwhelmed by "meh".
Grade horses can add quality without changing the original breed identity, though they will dilute the proportion. I once bred a Grade stallion, who evaluated 5/5 for American Saddlebred, to my 95% Saddlebred mare. (The only choices in her breed were her sire and grandsire, and both were ordinary.) The result was a pretty good foal, better than the backcross would have given.
Another breeding with that mare and a pure ASB not so closely related gave a "American Saddlebred 100% (1)" -- first generation pure. He's a good colt.
It would take time and effort to create more Danish Warmbloods from scratch by breeding the last part of the recipe: (Thoroughbred x Frederiksborg) to Trakehner. Have you ever done this?
In "Stallions at Stud" hhere are some pretty good Thoroughbreds, 40 to 50K HGPs with varying numbers of golds and greens. Also some good Trakehners. There are only 2 Frederiksborg stallions.
At the moment there are no Trakehner or Frederiksborg mares for sale in a reasonable age range (4 - 16); no (TB x Frederiksborg) mares either. 2 decent pure TB mares a few minutes ago, however.
Best wishes, and I hope some of that is useful!
Re: Question about breeding
Very useful information!Scythian wrote:Your filly Unnamed Horse #946913 (Arabian x Danish Warmblood) has good stats!
Try breeding the pure mare to the pure stallion and see what you get. But use #946913 as well.
If each of the breeding pair has the desired breed listed first/only, you can keep increasing to purebred. Sometimes the computer helps by adding 5% to the dominant breed in a cross.
I bred an (Arabian x Forest Horse) mare to a famous pure Arabian, [NYR] Beyond Gold. (Her parents were good quality but both came from the Adoption Centre.) Well, wow -- the colt was handsome and talented and the computer called him 80% Arabian rather than the 75% he really is. 95% x 100% should give you a 100% foal.
High COIs often go along with more Golds and Greens -- the trick is to inbreed with high quality. Mediocre to mediocre just gets you more mediocre. And mediocre (or worse) can diminish good in one generation -- can't always tell whether the better of the pair is going to elevate the foal's quality or get overwhelmed by "meh".
Grade horses can add quality without changing the original breed identity, though they will dilute the proportion. I once bred a Grade stallion, who evaluated 5/5 for American Saddlebred, to my 95% Saddlebred mare. (The only choices in her breed were her sire and grandsire, and both were ordinary.) The result was a pretty good foal, better than the backcross would have given.
Another breeding with that mare and a pure ASB not so closely related gave a "American Saddlebred 100% (1)" -- first generation pure. He's a good colt.
It would take time and effort to create more Danish Warmbloods from scratch by breeding the last part of the recipe: (Thoroughbred x Frederiksborg) to Trakehner. Have you ever done this?
In "Stallions at Stud" hhere are some pretty good Thoroughbreds, 40 to 50K HGPs with varying numbers of golds and greens. Also some good Trakehners. There are only 2 Frederiksborg stallions.
At the moment there are no Trakehner or Frederiksborg mares for sale in a reasonable age range (4 - 16); no (TB x Frederiksborg) mares either. 2 decent pure TB mares a few minutes ago, however.
Best wishes, and I hope some of that is useful!
The unnamed filly was sired by my 6 gold Arabian
I actually have her mom pregnant to him again to see what I get! I'm pretty sure you might have saw the Danish colt I have, his stats are meh though...but should I breed the mare to him anyway to get purebred fillies/colts? Then I could just breed that offspring to my Arabians, thank goodness I have a holding farm! xD
And no I have never bred from scratch, but now that you mentioned it that might be a better route to take than what I wrote above. Get myself a couple decent Thoroughbred mares, cross them with the Frederiksborg studs, then breed them to the (good) Trakehners and get some good pure Danish colts to use when I want to breed back to pure.
When I still bred Belgians I used grade studs with the coat color I wanted to cement the color in. Took a few generations to get back to pure though. Not sure if I'd want to go that route again even though I've seen some grade studs with some decent genetics on the market.