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Oriole wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:06 am 1. Western Trail Mongolians

I'd been breeding Mongolians for positive Agility-Balance-Intelligence comments for a while, and in September 2025 I accidentally got two colts with "agile as a cat" agility comment. So I thought: why not?

This is going okay, I guess. Today (2025-09-11) I got my very first colt with agility 56! With a "dime" comment and balance 40. Not bad.



The stallions who started it all:





My current second and third best studs, in training:






Goals:
- agility 50+, gold
- balance 40+, gold
- intelligence ?, gold
- stamina 35+, positive/green/gold if possible

Training (for Western Trail):
1. Lunge on the Flat (Arena, Walk) until 30 min. of Jumping Obstacles (Arena, Walk) takes 50% or less.
2. Jumping Obstacles (Arena, Walk) until Agility reaches 90+%.
3. Lunge over Jumps (Arena, Walk) until Intelligence reaches 90%.
4. Jumping Obstacles (Arena, Walk) until Agility reaches 100%.
5. Lunge over Jumps (Arena, Walk) until Intelligence reaches 100%
6. Lunge on the Flat (Arena, Walk) until Stamina reaches 100%.
Result:
Speed 82.79%
Strength 100%
Stamina 100%
Intelligence 100%
Movement 1%
Tempo 100%
Agility 100%
Balance 100%
I can helpt you with stats! I breed saddleseat arabians!!
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PSH wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:16 pm I can helpt you with stats! I breed saddleseat arabians!!
That would be great, thank you so much!! ^^ What can you offer and at what price?
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Oriole wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:31 pm
PSH wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:16 pm I can helpt you with stats! I breed saddleseat arabians!!
That would be great, thank you so much!! ^^ What can you offer and at what price?
I have a 58 balance stalliaon with 37 stamina, and this new foal I will rehome: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4765803
look at my farms, I have moooore horses! Accounts PSH and PSH2
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PSH wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:42 pm
Oriole wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:31 pm

That would be great, thank you so much!! ^^ What can you offer and at what price?
I have a 58 balance stalliaon with 37 stamina, and this new foal I will rehome: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4765803
look at my farms, I have moooore horses! Accounts PSH and PSH2

I took a look at your farms and you have great horses, but unfortunately their agility is a little bit lower than what I was hoping for, sorry! ^^ Still thank you for offering help, I really appreciate that!
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Oriole wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:52 pm
PSH wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 5:42 pm

I have a 58 balance stalliaon with 37 stamina, and this new foal I will rehome: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4765803
look at my farms, I have moooore horses! Accounts PSH and PSH2

I took a look at your farms and you have great horses, but unfortunately their agility is a little bit lower than what I was hoping for, sorry! ^^ Still thank you for offering help, I really appreciate that!
of course! (:
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Small update before going to bed:

Got my very first 58 agility. Unfortunately it's a filly :/

Also, I bought a 62 agility QH stud which should help me. But now I really want to wait and see if I can get agility 60+ without it

Also also, for some reason even my best studs with agility 50+ and nice balance can't gain more than 60.71 points in local shows and even place second from time to time, unlike one of my very first trained studs (linked in the first post) with only 47 agility. Weird.

Maybe they were too young (less than 5 yo) when I tested them?

P.S. I don't need more projects but I couldn't resist and bought a couple more QHs. Wanna breed them for Pole Bending...

...once I learn how to cull my herd and stop running into You can't have more horses message :/
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Comparing conformation: part 1

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4770282
Rock 56 40 38

1. Face Profile: medium
+12 balance, +7 agility, +5 tempo, +7 speed, +3 strength, +7 stamina
"The ideal face profile is about medium however a heavy head can inhibit speed, stamina, agility and tempo while being advantageous to strength."

2. Face Length: medium
+7 balance, +6 agility, +1 stamina
"A slightly shorter face can enhance agility while a slightly longer face can be advantageous to balance. Stamina is enhanced with a long face."

3. Jowl: very thick
+8 agility, +3 movement
"...A heavier head, influenced by a thick jowl, can be advantageous to agility."

4. Neck Length: medium
+9 balance, +10 agility, +1 speed, +3 strength, +10 stamina, +5 movement
"...A medium neck is ideal for agility and balance."

5. Withers/Shoulder Angle: -
(doesn't influence important stats)

6. Point of Shoulder: slightly low to medium (can be improved, desired: low)
+10 tempo, +6 stamina, +9 movement
"...A lower point of shoulder increases the overall slope of the shoulder which is ideal for tempo, stamina and movement."

7. Rib Cage: medium (can be improved, desired: deep)
0 stamina
"Well sprung ribs are ideal for stamina ..."

8. Depth of Flank: deep
0 speed, +9 stamina
"A deep flank is ideal for stamina ..."

9. Hip Angle: medium to slightly flat
+9 balance, 0 strength, +11 movement
"Flatter haunches enhances movement and to a lesser degree, balance. A sloping haunch enhances strength and balance."

10. Hip Length: -
(doesn't influence important stats)

11. Leg Thickness: very thin (can be improved, desired: thick)
+3 balance, +11 speed, 0 strength
"Thick legs are advantageous to strength and balance but could decrease speed."

12. Stifle Placement: backward to medium (can be improved, desired: forward)
+3 agility, +4 movement
"A forward placed stifle is ideal for agility while a set back stifle is ideal for movement."

13. Back Length: slightly shorter to medium
0 balance, +12 agility, 0 tempo, +8 strength, +5 stamina
"A slightly longer back is advantageous for tempo and balance, while a slightly medium to slightly shorter back is ideal for strength and agility."

14. Croup Height: medium
+10 agility, +3 tempo, +1 speed, +1 strength, +1 movement
"...A level build is ideal for agility and tempo."


A table with my 3 current best studs

Name Rock 56 40 38 Sorcerer 54 46 37 Coda 62 30 41
Face Profile +12 balance, +7 agility, +7 stamina +10 balance, +8 agility, +6 stamina +6 balance, +8 agility, +4 stamina
Face Length +7 balance, +6 agility, +1 stamina +11 balance, +4 agility, +1 stamina +7 balance, +6 agility, +1 stamina
Jowl +8 agility +7 agility +7 agility
Neck Length +9 balance, +10 agility, +10 stamina +11 balance, +12 agility, +9 stamina +11 balance, +12 agility, +9 stamina
Point of Shoulder +6 stamina +8 stamina +8 stamina
Rib Cage 0 stamina +3 stamina +10 stamina
Depth of Flank +9 stamina +4 stamina +5 stamina
Hip Angle +9 balance +11 balance 0 balance
Leg Thickness +3 balance +3 balance +6 balance
Stifle Placement +3 agility +5 agility +8 agility
Back Length 0 balance, +12 agility, +5 stamina 0 balance, +9 agility, +6 stamina 0 balance, +11 agility, +4 stamina
Croup Height +10 agility +9 agility +10 agility
In conclusion, here's what I should pay attention to:
- medium face profile (+10 balance, +8 agility, +6 stamina)
- medium face length (+7 balance, +6 agility, +1 stamina)
- VERY thick jowl (+8 agility)
- medium neck length (+11 balance, +12 agility, +9 stamina)
- low point of shoulder (+8 stamina)
- deep rib cage (+10 stamina)
- deep flank (+9 stamina)
- medium to slightly flat (?) hip angle (+11 balance)
- thick legs (+6 balance)
- forward placed stifle (+8 agility)
- slightly shorter back length (+12 agility, +5 stamina)
- medium croup height (+10 agility)

So an ideal horse will have...
8+6+8+12+8+12+10= 64 agility
10+7+11+11+6= 45 balance
6+1+9+10+9+5= 40 stamina
Eh? Hopefully this is right. Math isn't one of my talents xD
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Re: Oriole's Farm Log

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Sorcerer 54 46 37 * just beat 62.42 in Western Trail Local Shows, which is, apparently, higher than current L9 world record (62.39)? Insane. I don't dream of beating it in player-made competitions though, it must take an eternity. If I want to beat the world record, the goal is around 63.0.

Age: 6 years and about 8 months
Height: 12.3hh
Body Size: 52.5%
Body type: 60% pony
(5* Mongolian eval)
Weight: 827 lbs (Moderate)*
Temperament: Calm**

* Need to figure out the borders of Moderate (where Moderate ends and Moderately Thin and Moderately Fleshy start) for this horse.
** I'm not sure but I think it was "low" Calm on the edge with Bombproof. Need to explore this as well.


Edit:

So I've played with weight and the highest score is 62.54 now. Wow. I... admit I was not ready to get this so soon.
Also, today I got my first 57 agility colt (finally) with a "cat" comment! And a 54 agility one with a "wouldn't bump into anything" comment. Don't know yet which one I will use as a stud. I really need to sort my mares first.

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