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The Ultimate Honse Farm Log

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Hello, to anyone reading this log this is where I put my updates about my breeding/showing projects.
As of right now I have two goals:
To breed a line of high GP 0% COI competitive Arabs with 5/5 Arab breed book evaluation.
To breed a line of the rare Pavlavan breed with high GP 0% COI a successful competition history and 5/5 evaluation from the Pavlavan breed book.
By ‘competitive lines’ I mean that looking through the horses lineage you will find most of their relatives especially direct ancestors have competitive titles. I put a lot of time and money into building my horses titles, entering them in almost any show they are eligible in. I hope to one day make a name for myself with my Arabs and Pavlavans, especially the Pavlavans, they are a very small breed with a very limited gene pool and I hope to one day expand and improve the breeds quality with my projects. That is all I can think of for now, thank you for reading this post and if you have any questions about my methods, just ask ^^
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The Pavlova Project: Phase 1
The Pavlova Project is the name for my Pavlavan breed enrichment project. I am partnered with Pink Soul Horses in this endeavor, though the development of our lines and end goal of the project differ.
Phase one consists of finding suitable horses to form a breed needed in creating the Pavlavan, the Persian Arab to be exact. The creation of a Persian Arab is Arabian x [Arabian x Caspian]. My first goal was to find some horses for the Arabian x Caspian crosses. Phase one is the Arabian x Caspian foals and their parents.
I purchased an Arab mare, https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4666890 for quick reference she has around 35,000 GP, a COI of about 44%, and a red strength deduction. I evaluated her for the following breeds as well: Arabian, (4/5 she falls short in the height category) Pavlavan, (5/5, this is what I was mainly looking for, even if she’s a far cry from the final product I need I figured hitting every mark on the evaluation early might make things easier. Remember, we are not looking for a perfect Arabian, but a perfect Pavlavan, and she fit that) Moving on though to the Persian Arabian evaluation, (4/5, she fell short in the height category again) And finally, the Plateau Persian evaluation, (4/5, fell short with height yet again) With this mare satisfying my requirements I turned to expanding my gene pool and giving myself more options. The incubation of a foal takes time, and the more foals and the more diversity I had to choose from for my next steps the more relaxed I felt about the projects future. So I selected a mare of mine who had been sitting idle, https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4677933 She’s half Akhal Teke x Arabian [50%]. She scores a perfect 5/5 for the Arabian, Persian Arab, and Plateau Persian breeds buts interestingly scores a mere 2/5 for the Pavlavan breed, falling short in height, build, and body size. She has a COI of 100%+ but 60,000 GP. My reasoning for choosing her is mainly to increase variety in my foal batches and raise the starting bar for the next generations GP. There are some faults however, such as her not being fully Arab and scoring sorely low on the Pavlavan evaluation. However I have yet to see how this will affect things in the long run. Moving on to the stallions though. I used a 0% COI Caspian stallion of Pink Soul’s, named Short King, and bred him to both of the aforementioned mares, resulting in a total of six foals as I write this, three from each mare, with each mare giving birth in this order: filly, filly, colt. So each mare has two fillies and lastly a colt. The foals of the pure Arabian mare are [Arabian x Caspian 50%] with a COI of about 22%. The foals from the Akhal-Teke x Arabian cross mare all read [Half Caspian 50%] and have a COI of about 62%. I’m not sure if the half Caspian label means these foals are not viable for the creation of the Persian Arab, but we shall see through trial and error.

That ends my report for now, I’ll fuss over things like GP and the breeder reports in another post. Currently I’m just aging these foals and competing them, perhaps a little poorly, I think they need more training. However I do know that all these foals share the same sire, making them half siblings, and that could mess with trying to keep the line Alabama free, so I may breed the mares to a different stallion or introduce a new mare and breed her to a new stallion, etc etc, the combinations are many. Right now I just need a diverse gene pool to start with. Thank you for reading my ramblings and until next time dear readers
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Pavlova Project: Phase one participant scores
Welcome back, in this log I shall be documenting things like GP and other data that is what I believe beneficial knowledge is my project.

Short King
Breed: Caspian
Generation: First, having unknown sire and dam
COI: 0%
Height: 11.0 hh
GP: 31,693
Breeder report notes: Green intelligence
Breed book evaluations: I did not evaluate him for the breed book I have since it seemed irrelevant and I don’t have the Caspian book.

Reverbourne
Breed: Arabian
Generation: First generation pureblood, having known parents.
COI: 44.7%
Height: 16.0 hh
GP: 35,344
Breeder report notes: Red strength
Breed book evaluations:
4/5 Arab (too short)
5/5 Pav
4/5 PA (too short)
4/5 PP (too short)

Breed abbreviation key:
Arab = Arabian
Pav = Pavlavan
PA = Persian Arab
PP = Plateau Persian

ČŁ Blood’s Deathwish
Breed: Akhal-Teke x Arabian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 100+%
Height: 15.0 hh
GP: 60,361
Breeder report notes: Green speed, Gold tempo, Gold balance, Gold intelligence.
Breed book evaluations:
5/5 Arab
2/5 Pav
5/5 PA
5/5 PP

[Short King x Reverbourne]

1: Reverbourne’s Vixen (F)
Breed: [Arabian x Caspian 50%]
Generation: first gen cross
COI: 21.98%
Height: Not fully grown, 29 inches at birth
GP: 35,344 (highest of Short King x Reverbourne foal batch)
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

2: Reverbourne’s Foxy Lady (F)
Breed [Arabian x Caspian 50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 21.98%
Height: Not fully grown, 8.3 hh at birth
GP: 32,369
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

3: Reverbourne’s Red King (M)
Breed: [Arabian x Caspian 50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 21.98%
Height: Not fully grown, 30 inches at birth
GP: 34,468
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

[Short King x ČŁ Blood’s Deathwish]

1: ⚔️ČŁ Deathwish’s Harbinger⚔️ (F)
Breed: Half Caspian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 61.94%
Height: Not fully grown
GP: 44,266
Breeder report notes: Red strength, Gold intelligence
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

2: ⚔️ČŁ Deathwish’s Hela⚔️ (F)
Breed: Half Caspian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 61.94%
Height: Not fully grown, 32 inches at birth
GP: 47,375
Breeder report notes: Green agility, Gold intelligence
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

3: ⚔️ČŁ Deathwish’s Hades⚔️ (M)
Breed: Half Caspian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 61.94%
Height: Not fully grown, 9.0 hh at birth
GP: 47,648 (highest of Short King x ČŁ Blood’s Deathwish foal batch)
Breeder report notes: Gold intelligence
Breed book evaluations: Not fully grown

That is all for now. I may breed the mares to a different stallion in the future. Thank you for viewing my report
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Overview of the farm: Title holders
This is just a grand census I have decided to do. With my horses entering in many shows and even winning them I am proud to say several title holders reside in my pastures. Because of my low COI breeding projects though my horses competition ability will no doubt be affected. So I am doing an in depth analysis of all my title holders to see how they are affected over generations. First up is my golden boy
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4479575
I started competing him around age ten, and my only regret is that I did not start his career sooner, because he has proved to be a capable show horse. As I write this he holds a GCh++ title, I doubt he will rise higher than that though sadly, as his competing years have withered into a mere few months left. I will also be collecting some data to see if I can find any patterns.
GCh++ ČŁ Popped Champagne
Breed: Arabian
Generation: First gen purebred
COI: 100+%
Height: 18.2 hh
GP: 69,634
Breeder report notes: Gold stamina, Gold tempo, Gold balance, Gold agility, Gold intelligence.
Other notes: I bought him at a young age. I will add other horses to this list once they are near retiring.
Titles:
Marathon driving: GCh
Show jumping: Ch
Steeplechasing: Ch
Harness racing: Ch
Endurance: Ch
Racing: Ch
Obstacle driving: Ch
That is all for now, I suppose when he finally retires I will add things like his earnings and points
Until next time dear readers
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The Pavlova Project: Meet the next batch

Several developments have taken place as I have decided to acquire some new horses in hopes of expanding the genetic diversity of my herd.
I have bought an Arab stallion and two Arab mares.
The stallion: https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4184270
I have also collected some data from him.
Noble Joy (M)
Breed: Arabian
Generation: First gen purebred Arab (AC)
COI: 0%
Height: 14.3 hh
GP: 34,222
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations:
5/5 Arab
Pav: N/A
PA: 5/5
PP: 5/5
A most curious summary, I may breed him to some Casp x Arab crosses, but for the most part he’ll be used to lower the COI of my Arabs. Well, onto the next I suppose.
The first Arab mare:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4330294 I’ve collected data from her as well
Chestnut smolder (F)
Breed: Arabian
Generation: 2nd gen pure Arab (foal of AC stock dam and sire)
COI: 0%
Height: 14.2hh
GP: 32,659
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations:
5/5 Arab
4/5 Pav (falls short on height)
PA: 5/5
PP: 5/5
She has potential for the Pavlova project and my 0 COI Arab project. She is a young mare with many fertile years left so I’ll probably use her in both.
On to the next though, a second Arab mare.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4709803
Peppercorn (F)
Breed: Arabian
Generation: First gen purebred Arab (AC)
COI: 0%
Height: 14.0hh
GP: 30,197
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations:
5/5 Arab
3/5 Pav (Falls short in body size and height)
5/5 PA
5/5 PP
A rather satisfactory report, however this mare is rather old, over 19 years of age so I shall have to think wisely about who I breed her too as it may be her last foal. I’m thinking of perhaps a Caspian stallion? It’d widen the selection batch a little more. And so ends my note gathering, thank you for reading.
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Quick update: I have decided to breed Noble Joy and Chestnut Smolder together
The resulting colt was born with red strength though so I have unfortunately rehomed it and bred the two again in hopes of a filly with no negative traits.
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The Pavlova Project: Batch 3
I have roped in two extra Arab mares and purchased an Arab colt to bring more new blood into the project.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4650376 The first Arab mare,
SNN's Dark Calibre (F)
Breed: Arabian x North African Bard [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 0%
Height: 13.3hh
GP: 31,562
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations:
4/5 Arab (Falls short in height)
4/5 Pav (Height again)
4/5 PA (Height)
4/5 PP (Height)
A satisfactory report, I bred her to a Caspian Stallion, Dubious Grandiose, and she bore a colt. She is rather elderly though and in her last years of life I think I shall breed her to an Arab stallion. For the sake of my report I shall include some data on the sire as well. https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4203572
Dubious Grandiose (M)
Breed: Caspian
Generation: 4th gen purebred Caspian Dam's side, first Gen Caspian Sire.
COI: 0%
Height: 11.0hh
GP: 35,601
Breeder report notes: Green Intelligence
Breed book evaluations: None
A rather sturdy stallion, I am glad to have found him.

[SNN's Dark Calibre x Dubious Grandiose]
Grand Calibre (M)
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4715844
Breed: Half Caspian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 0%
Height: Too young
GP: 34,377
Breeder report notes: None, he sadly did not inherit his fathers inteligience
Breed book evaluations: Too young
Overall though a rather well rounded colt and a good investment in his mother's lifespan.

On to the second Arab mare I purchased though.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4653762
SNN's Life of the Party (F)
Breed: Arabian
Generation: 3rd gen purebred on her sire's side and dam is AC stock.
COI: 0%
Height: 13.0hh
GP: 32,725
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations:
4/5 Arab (Falls short in height)
4/5 Pav (Height again)
4/5 PA (Height)
4/5 PP (Height)
I bred her to Dubious Grandiose as well, the result was another colt.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4715845
[SNN's Life of the Party x Dubious Grandiose]
Ruby Ball (M)
Breed: Arabian x Caspian [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 0%
Height: Too young
GP: 32,764
Breeder report notes: None again.
Breed book evaluations: Too young.
Not a bad colt, not bad at all. His mother is getting on in years so I'll probably breed her to Arab stallions from now on but if a new Caspian stud comes up I may as well breed her.
Moving on hough to a newborn arab colt I purchased.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4711418
I'm experimenting with expanding my 0 COI arab stock and this is my lastest investment. When he is mature I will probably pair him with an arab mare for breeding, but I may lend his genes to the Pavlova project as well and breed him to some arab x casp crosses. In the meantime it is time to collect data.
YoungBlood (M)
Breed: Arabian [+2]
Generation: 2nd gen purebred arab
COI: 0%
Height: 10.1hh at birth
GP: 37,486
Breeder report notes: None
Breed book evaluations: Too young
A worthy investment in my eyes currently. My only concern is his sire, Cole, is the same as Chestnut Smolder's. Crazy how the family tree disperses.
And so I suppose I should wrap up my notes at that. Thank you for your time.
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Quick update: Noble Joy and Chestnut Smolder have given me a viable filly as hoped!
They had another as well but she had red strength again so I unfortunately rehomed her.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4716696
I have bred them again, I think they will be a breeding pair
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The Pavlova Project: The short little gentlemen
So, I have had an issue crop up with my Arab x Casp crosses, specifically the latest batch...
They are wholly and undoubtedly too short, my farm is filled with robust colts and young stallions prancing around like the pony gentlemen they are, I have taken to affectionately referring to these little mishaps as my tiny gentlemen. I should have calculated for this kind of scenario honestly, breeding Arab mares that already fall short on their breeds height standards to little 11 hand stallions will of course make short foals. Alas, in my exuberance to increase my project selection I made an oversight and have ended up with garden gnomes for horses in my pastures. I suppose I should introduce the gnomes.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4715844
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4715845
These two have already been introduced, so I won't go into too much detail on them.
The third one however is a new development.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4716337
Party Blaze (M) [SNN's Life of the Party x Dubious Grandiose]
Breed: Arabian x Caspain [50%]
Generation: First gen cross
COI: 0%
Height: A worrisome 12.2hh at 2 years old.
GP: 34,665 (Higher than his brother, Ruby Ball)
Breeder report notes: None, once again his fathers intelligence evades me
Breed book evaluations: With the way his height is headed, I think I shall not evaluate him.
In conclusion though I have reached a solution! I shall breed these stallions into my competitive Arab line, for my Arabs have become rather tall and gangly as of late, (Tis quite bad actually, 20.2hh is the new record I think) The resulting foals will be high COI, but perhaps they will fall in a sweet height range and be useful to my next steps.

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