Why do people ask to rehome a foal from their private studs?

[UltimateHonse2]

This hasn’t happened to me yet, that I am aware of, but I keep seeing pings of people saying things like “I accidentally put my stallion on the market please rehome the foals when they are born.” Or “You used my private stud rehome the foal when it’s born.”
Um, why???? Is it fair to demand that? How does having another child affect the stallion?? I can’t see how this would be an issue to anyone especially since you have to pay to get your mare bred and wait a ton of turns to get your foal??

[Argent]

A weird culture has developed where people will put a stud up publicly for their convenience, label it “private,” and then get angry when someone uses a publicly posted stallion.

[UltimateHonse2]

A weird culture has developed where people will put a stud up publicly for their convenience, label it “private,” and then get angry when someone uses a publicly posted stallion.

Oh, that makes very little sense to me since when I go to breed a mare every mature stallion shows up and it’s easy to scroll until I find who I’m looking for.
Also very unfair for the person who’s spending time and money on the resulting foal. And I consider it a compliment when people stud to my stallions and that they have a successful career if they are prolific and have like 20+ offspring
And a lot of the private studs I’ve seen aren’t that great like 56,000 HGP XD

[Emily_the_Equestrian]

Often times people will post their studs on the market for a very discounted price (like $1). They do this so they can use the stud on their alt accounts or allow their breeding partners to use the stallion while not paying full price. They will then label their stallion as PRIVATE so they do not lose out on stud fees and possible income that they could be getting if they opened the stud for public use at full price. They also may want to contain their lines for whatever reason. It's kind of a common courtesy thing to not touch others "private" stallions, but sometimes mistakes happen, and people accidentally breed without checking the description.

Even I utilize "private" studs when I need my boarder to give me access to one of my studs that they are holding.
Soon, I think their will be an option on the game that will remedy this problem where you can opt to have mares that are bred to your stallion approved. Until that happens, people just label their stallions "private" and hope that others respect that.

Anyways, hopefully that helped and I explained it well enough.
If not, here is a thread where BlackOak2 answered my question I had about "private" studs when I was first starting out: viewtopic.php?t=44953

EDIT: Forgot to add, if you're posting a private stallion for $1 on the stud market everyone could see that as a deal and start breeding to it. This could drain the stallion's energy causing you to have to age the stallion prematurely and bringing about a speedier death for him.

[UltimateHonse2]

Often times people will post their studs on the market for a very discounted price (like $1). They do this so they can use the stud on their alt accounts or allow their breeding partners to use the stallion while not paying full price. They will then label their stallion as PRIVATE so they do not lose out on stud fees and possible income that they could be getting if they opened the stud for public use at full price. They also may want to contain their lines for whatever reason. It's kind of a common courtesy thing to not touch others "private" stallions, but sometimes mistakes happen, and people accidentally breed without checking the description.

Even I utilize "private" studs when I need my boarder to give me access to one of my studs that they are holding.
Soon, I think their will be an option on the game that will remedy this problem where you can opt to have mares that are bred to your stallion approved. Until that happens, people just label their stallions "private" and hope that others respect that.

Anyways, hopefully that helped and I explained it well enough.
If not, here is a thread where BlackOak2 answered my question I had about "private" studs when I was first starting out: viewtopic.php?t=44953

EDIT: Forgot to add, if you're posting a private stallion for $1 on the stud market everyone could see that as a deal and start breeding to it. This could drain the stallion's energy causing you to have to age the stallion prematurely and bringing about a speedier death for him.

Ah ok, but the approved mares only button already exists? And posting the horse for an outrageous amount of money would be a better defense right? Also I’ve seen the private label but since the text is like gray it’s easy to miss especially if you don’t inspect the horse and just click breed on the stud page

[Emily_the_Equestrian]

Often times people will post their studs on the market for a very discounted price (like $1). They do this so they can use the stud on their alt accounts or allow their breeding partners to use the stallion while not paying full price. They will then label their stallion as PRIVATE so they do not lose out on stud fees and possible income that they could be getting if they opened the stud for public use at full price. They also may want to contain their lines for whatever reason. It's kind of a common courtesy thing to not touch others "private" stallions, but sometimes mistakes happen, and people accidentally breed without checking the description.

Even I utilize "private" studs when I need my boarder to give me access to one of my studs that they are holding.
Soon, I think their will be an option on the game that will remedy this problem where you can opt to have mares that are bred to your stallion approved. Until that happens, people just label their stallions "private" and hope that others respect that.

Anyways, hopefully that helped and I explained it well enough.
If not, here is a thread where BlackOak2 answered my question I had about "private" studs when I was first starting out: viewtopic.php?t=44953

EDIT: Forgot to add, if you're posting a private stallion for $1 on the stud market everyone could see that as a deal and start breeding to it. This could drain the stallion's energy causing you to have to age the stallion prematurely and bringing about a speedier death for him.

Ah ok, but the approved mares only button already exists? And posting the horse for an outrageous amount of money would be a better defense right? Also I’ve seen the private label but since the text is like gray it’s easy to miss especially if you don’t inspect the horse and just click breed on the stud page

I noticed that too, but when you actually try to use the approved mares only button it doesn't work. My guess is that they haven't activated that feature yet?
Yes, I do think that setting the stud fee extremely high would be a better defense. I think out of convenience owners like to have the stud fee at an already low price so they can breed on demand with their alt accounts, and if they have allowed a breeding partner access to the stud they don't have to ask to have the fee lowered before breeding.

[Morgruff]

Um, why???? Is it fair to demand that? How does having another child affect the stallion??

I feel that it is completely reasonable for someone to want to keep their lines personal. It's their horse that they bred, they should get to decide what is done with it and what isn't, including what horses they are bred to, and their offspring. People ask for the rehoming because the stud wasn't meant for you to use, and there is a variety of possible reasons why. We don't have a way to actually do private coverings right now from a side account and such, it has to be posted publicly. There is a button for approved mares only, but it's not an implemented feature right now and we can't use it, you can see (Coming soon) next to it. I would say just try to be more careful when breeding to others' studs, and make sure you check for PRIVATE in the name as a kindness.

Having a foal will make it to where the parents can't be rehomed as well. There's not many situations where this needs to happen, but I've been inconvenienced before with offspring I couldn't get rid of myself, to then get rid of the parent.

[UltimateHonse2]

Um, why???? Is it fair to demand that? How does having another child affect the stallion??

I feel that it is completely reasonable for someone to want to keep their lines personal. It's their horse that they bred, they should get to decide what is done with it and what isn't, including what horses they are bred to, and their offspring. People ask for the rehoming because the stud wasn't meant for you to use, and there is a variety of possible reasons why. We don't have a way to actually do private coverings right now from a side account and such, it has to be posted publicly. There is a button for approved mares only, but it's not an implemented feature right now and we can't use it, you can see (Coming soon) next to it. I would say just try to be more careful when breeding to others' studs, and make sure you check for PRIVATE in the name as a kindness.

Having a foal will make it to where the parents can't be rehomed as well. There's not many situations where this needs to happen, but I've been inconvenienced before with offspring I couldn't get rid of myself, to then get rid of the parent.

Keeping a line private is reasonable, but for the average player a foal is a huge investment of time and asking that person to rehome the foal seems a little harsh. Posting your stud for public breeding is a huge risk and you’ve gotta be ok with a couple loose ends. if you’re thinking of rehoming your stallion simply don’t take the risk. People don’t care or make mistakes and aren’t willing to terminate the time consuming creation of a foal. Putting your horse up for public breeding is asking for accidents if it’s a private stud. I haven’t gotten into shared accounting yet so I don’t understand the difficulties but private studding is rather risky business and maybe taking the long route in getting your horse bred is better at that point. It’s all up to personal choice and comfort of course but you can’t push for an iron grip of control over your stud if you put him up for breeding

[UltimateHonse2]

Ah ok, but the approved mares only button already exists? And posting the horse for an outrageous amount of money would be a better defense right? Also I’ve seen the private label but since the text is like gray it’s easy to miss especially if you don’t inspect the horse and just click breed on the stud page

I noticed that too, but when you actually try to use the approved mares only button it doesn't work. My guess is that they haven't activated that feature yet?
Yes, I do think that setting the stud fee extremely high would be a better defense. I think out of convenience owners like to have the stud fee at an already low price so they can breed on demand with their alt accounts, and if they have allowed a breeding partner access to the stud they don't have to ask to have the fee lowered before breeding.

I see, I don’t have an alt account and don’t do things like sharing horses for safety, many other games are full of people who will abuse that trust so I’m a little paranoid. That paranoia also means that putting a private stud on the market is a risky idea in my eyes and if you do it you e got to be ok with loose ends, yes you can and should send warning pings of please don’t use my horse again but for the average player a foal takes a lot of turns and they probably won’t/wont want to rehome it. Also, people who simply don’t care exist and will abuse your stud as such sadly. I hope HWO makes this simpler in the future such as getting the approved mares only button to work and maybe creating a list to auto accept certain mares

[Argent]

We don't have a way to actually do private coverings right now from a side account and such, it has to be posted publicly.

You absolutely do. Just transfer the stallion or mare to the opposite account. It’s not difficult, people are just lazy and would rather make angry posts about someone using their “private” stud.