Pahlavan

[PSH]

Hey!

Can someone give me tips for breeding the Pahlavan horse? It's going diffivult for me (I failed breeding the Plateau Arabian)

Thanks!

PSH

[BlackOak2]

Hey!

Can someone give me tips for breeding the Pahlavan horse? It's going diffivult for me (I failed breeding the Plateau Arabian)

Thanks!

PSH

You mean the Plateau Persian.

You're likely issue is height. All the market arabians tend to be too tall for recipe crosses. The plateau persian is quite easy, but has a very small window for height, so you're most likely strategy is to take a fresh AC arabian (or very close to AC) and breed that one to your persian arabians (this will limit your height to what the AC arabians have before they just got too tall). Your foal birth height will need to be 33 inches to 9.1 hands, with not much compromise at all. Anything smaller or larger than that and your chances will decrease much more.

And you will want to keep a good eye on your heights overall, because a lot of thoroughbreds can be giant-sized as well.

Overall, these breed recipes should go quite well as their ingredient parents are already quite close (or even on-point) to the made breeds. Check your heights again and see if that's the issue.

[PSH]

Hey!

Can someone give me tips for breeding the Pahlavan horse? It's going diffivult for me (I failed breeding the Plateau Arabian)

Thanks!

PSH

You mean the Plateau Persian.

You're likely issue is height. All the market arabians tend to be too tall for recipe crosses. The plateau persian is quite easy, but has a very small window for height, so you're most likely strategy is to take a fresh AC arabian (or very close to AC) and breed that one to your persian arabians (this will limit your height to what the AC arabians have before they just got too tall). Your foal birth height will need to be 33 inches to 9.1 hands, with not much compromise at all. Anything smaller or larger than that and your chances will decrease much more.

And you will want to keep a good eye on your heights overall, because a lot of thoroughbreds can be giant-sized as well.

Overall, these breed recipes should go quite well as their ingredient parents are already quite close (or even on-point) to the made breeds. Check your heights again and see if that's the issue.

Hey!

Yes, I meant Plateau Persian, sorry for the confusion
I have a 15.3hh mare arabian that I bred with a 14hh Persian Arabian, but the filly is a crossbreed and I don't know if the persian arabian is good for breeding beacuse there is no one of them for sale and jut for stud, so I don't know a lot about them

Thanks!

[BlackOak2]

You mean the Plateau Persian.

You're likely issue is height. All the market arabians tend to be too tall for recipe crosses. The plateau persian is quite easy, but has a very small window for height, so you're most likely strategy is to take a fresh AC arabian (or very close to AC) and breed that one to your persian arabians (this will limit your height to what the AC arabians have before they just got too tall). Your foal birth height will need to be 33 inches to 9.1 hands, with not much compromise at all. Anything smaller or larger than that and your chances will decrease much more.

And you will want to keep a good eye on your heights overall, because a lot of thoroughbreds can be giant-sized as well.

Overall, these breed recipes should go quite well as their ingredient parents are already quite close (or even on-point) to the made breeds. Check your heights again and see if that's the issue.

Hey!

Yes, I meant Plateau Persian, sorry for the confusion
I have a 15.3hh mare arabian that I bred with a 14hh Persian Arabian, but the filly is a crossbreed and I don't know if the persian arabian is good for breeding beacuse there is no one of them for sale and jut for stud, so I don't know a lot about them

Thanks!

For your recipes, you can't use horses that have named other breeds outside of the recipe (so not like a tb x arab if the recipe only calls for an arab). However, they don't have to be purebred. You can use a mixed arab, a part arab or a half arab. So if you need to adjust the parent horse to better fulfill the requirements of the recipe breed, you can use grades to create half, part or mixed arab (or whatever breed) to fulfill what you want.

If your plateau Persian grows up to be 14.2 (which is an acceptable outcome for those two, depending on which height genes are passed onward), it should be good to breed with a shorter Tb in the 14 to 15 hand area. Maybe a Tb as high as 16 hands, but again, keep a close eye on that height.

Even with a perfect foal born, it's still a chance of the resulting recipe breed or not.

One additional note. If you have a recipe that requires one breed on one side and one breed on the other, the resulting crossbreeds Breed x Breed can also be used to try for the recipe breed again. So you can breed the full siblings together to try again, especially if they match your new recipe breed but didn't come out right.

[PSH]

Hey!

Yes, I meant Plateau Persian, sorry for the confusion
I have a 15.3hh mare arabian that I bred with a 14hh Persian Arabian, but the filly is a crossbreed and I don't know if the persian arabian is good for breeding beacuse there is no one of them for sale and jut for stud, so I don't know a lot about them

Thanks!

For your recipes, you can't use horses that have named other breeds outside of the recipe (so not like a tb x arab if the recipe only calls for an arab). However, they don't have to be purebred. You can use a mixed arab, a part arab or a half arab. So if you need to adjust the parent horse to better fulfill the requirements of the recipe breed, you can use grades to create half, part or mixed arab (or whatever breed) to fulfill what you want.

If your plateau Persian grows up to be 14.2 (which is an acceptable outcome for those two, depending on which height genes are passed onward), it should be good to breed with a shorter Tb in the 14 to 15 hand area. Maybe a Tb as high as 16 hands, but again, keep a close eye on that height.

Even with a perfect foal born, it's still a chance of the resulting recipe breed or not.

One additional note. If you have a recipe that requires one breed on one side and one breed on the other, the resulting crossbreeds Breed x Breed can also be used to try for the recipe breed again. So you can breed the full siblings together to try again, especially if they match your new recipe breed but didn't come out right.

Hey!
So, form the same parents, could be two siblings, one Plateau persian and one crossbred? I didn't know that
My arabian mare is 5/5 pints arabian evaluate


Thanks!

[BlackOak2]

For your recipes, you can't use horses that have named other breeds outside of the recipe (so not like a tb x arab if the recipe only calls for an arab). However, they don't have to be purebred. You can use a mixed arab, a part arab or a half arab. So if you need to adjust the parent horse to better fulfill the requirements of the recipe breed, you can use grades to create half, part or mixed arab (or whatever breed) to fulfill what you want.

If your plateau Persian grows up to be 14.2 (which is an acceptable outcome for those two, depending on which height genes are passed onward), it should be good to breed with a shorter Tb in the 14 to 15 hand area. Maybe a Tb as high as 16 hands, but again, keep a close eye on that height.

Even with a perfect foal born, it's still a chance of the resulting recipe breed or not.

One additional note. If you have a recipe that requires one breed on one side and one breed on the other, the resulting crossbreeds Breed x Breed can also be used to try for the recipe breed again. So you can breed the full siblings together to try again, especially if they match your new recipe breed but didn't come out right.

Hey!
So, form the same parents, could be two siblings, one Plateau persian and one crossbred? I didn't know that
My arabian mare is 5/5 pints arabian evaluate


Thanks!

It'll always be a chance of the breed popping correctly, there is never a guarantee of it. If you breed a crossbreed sibling to a plateau sibling, you'll have a half plateau. Then you'll have to breed back to purebred. However, as long as it's just a half plateau and not a half plateau x arab (or something), you will be able to use the half plateau in your recipe for that pav.

What I was saying is that two crossbreed foals, can be bred together for the chance to make the plateau. This only works in a breed x breed recipe. This does not work in a [breed x breed] x breed recipe and it does not work in a [breed x breed] x [breed x breed] recipe.

[PSH]

Hey!
So, form the same parents, could be two siblings, one Plateau persian and one crossbred? I didn't know that
My arabian mare is 5/5 pints arabian evaluate


Thanks!

It'll always be a chance of the breed popping correctly, there is never a guarantee of it. If you breed a crossbreed sibling to a plateau sibling, you'll have a half plateau. Then you'll have to breed back to purebred. However, as long as it's just a half plateau and not a half plateau x arab (or something), you will be able to use the half plateau in your recipe for that pav.

What I was saying is that two crossbreed foals, can be bred together for the chance to make the plateau. This only works in a breed x breed recipe. This does not work in a [breed x breed] x breed recipe and it does not work in a [breed x breed] x [breed x breed] recipe.

okay, thanks!!


PSH