Newbie Questions

[brixton22]

Hi everyone! I'm fairly new to this game so I apologize if any of these questions have already been answered in other posts
1. I am currently trying to breed both the breeds of holstein (in order to make hanoverians) and both groningens and gelderlanders in order to breed a dutch warmblood. I am struggling with this because I have made the recipes for these breeds or breeds that will help to make it (if that makes any sense) but I am failing to get any of the horses I actually need! I keep getting grade horses. Is there another thing I am missing (besides evaluation ratings) in order to breed the horses I want? Is there a way to help get higher evaluation ratings in my foals, even though there aren't many options in the market for studs or horses I can buy?

2. One more little question I have right now is money. It is a little bit difficult to financially support my breeding or stable space goals at the moment because my income is very slow haha! I was wondering if there was a better way or a life hack in the game to make more money? I used to have a fully trained horse that I trained that I would compete in local shows which was helpful, but she would still get 3rds and 4ths so she was more helpful in gaining turns or PT rather than money. She has since passed, but both then and now I don't really know how real competitions work haha!
Any help or guidance would truly be appreciated! (Apologies for the long post, I have a lot of details )

[Emiisheartless]

Welcome to the game! It can seem a bit overwhelming at first, but I’ve found that the community is incredibly helpful! To try and answer your questions:

1. You seem to have a really good grasp on how the creation of new breeds work! Grade horses are kind of a curse and a blessing. When any four horses are combined, it will most likely become a grade horse. This means that for recipes requiring two mixes to be bred (ie Arabian x NAB bred to Forest x Tarpan) the result is quite likely to be a grade. In order to prevent this, we first need to make sure we actually have the correct horses. If the recipe calls for Arabian x NAB, NAB x Arabian won’t work. The breeds must be listed in the right order. Next, the evaluation is really important. I don’t have a ton of experience with creating breeds, but I’ve noticed it’s almost impossible unless you have a 5* evaluation, either for each horse or third offspring (meaning if one horse is a hand too tall and one is a hand too short, the foal will probably be just right)

While grades are kind of annoying, they can also be really useful. If you breed one with a better evaluation to one of your horses, it will result in a half of that breed. (Arabian bred to grade results in half Arabian). These can be used in breed recipes. This horse will likely have a better evaluation, therefore increasing your chance of creating the new breed.

2. Having a good grinder is absolutely vital. They are the most effective way of getting money, and the community can usually provide one or a few good horses for new players to use. I usually just toss mine into local shows, as you get the money immediately without having to wait for judging, but if your horse is good enough it might be worth putting it in a few player-made competitions. I recommend accessing them through the horse’s profile, as this will automatically filter out any shows the horse isn’t eligible for. You can choose the discipline you want to compete in, and then you sign the horse up for the competitions you want. You can sign up for ten shows every turn, so if you want to join any more, you’ll have to use a turn and advance time. These competitions are judged at a fixed time of day, so you’ll have to wait until then for the results. While it isn’t as fast as locals, it is possible to earn quite a lot of money if your horse is good enough.

I hope this was somewhat understandable. If not, blame my lack of sleep
Let us (the community) know if you have any more questions!

[brixton22]

Welcome to the game! It can seem a bit overwhelming at first, but I’ve found that the community is incredibly helpful! To try and answer your questions:

1. You seem to have a really good grasp on how the creation of new breeds work! Grade horses are kind of a curse and a blessing. When any four horses are combined, it will most likely become a grade horse. This means that for recipes requiring two mixes to be bred (ie Arabian x NAB bred to Forest x Tarpan) the result is quite likely to be a grade. In order to prevent this, we first need to make sure we actually have the correct horses. If the recipe calls for Arabian x NAB, NAB x Arabian won’t work. The breeds must be listed in the right order. Next, the evaluation is really important. I don’t have a ton of experience with creating breeds, but I’ve noticed it’s almost impossible unless you have a 5* evaluation, either for each horse or third offspring (meaning if one horse is a hand too tall and one is a hand too short, the foal will probably be just right)

While grades are kind of annoying, they can also be really useful. If you breed one with a better evaluation to one of your horses, it will result in a half of that breed. (Arabian bred to grade results in half Arabian). These can be used in breed recipes. This horse will likely have a better evaluation, therefore increasing your chance of creating the new breed.

2. Having a good grinder is absolutely vital. They are the most effective way of getting money, and the community can usually provide one or a few good horses for new players to use. I usually just toss mine into local shows, as you get the money immediately without having to wait for judging, but if your horse is good enough it might be worth putting it in a few player-made competitions. I recommend accessing them through the horse’s profile, as this will automatically filter out any shows the horse isn’t eligible for. You can choose the discipline you want to compete in, and then you sign the horse up for the competitions you want. You can sign up for ten shows every turn, so if you want to join any more, you’ll have to use a turn and advance time. These competitions are judged at a fixed time of day, so you’ll have to wait until then for the results. While it isn’t as fast as locals, it is possible to earn quite a lot of money if your horse is good enough.

I hope this was somewhat understandable. If not, blame my lack of sleep
Let us (the community) know if you have any more questions!

This is SO helpful! I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have definitely been doing some things wrong with my breeding haha! Thanks again for the help!

[BlackOak2]

Welcome to the game! It can seem a bit overwhelming at first, but I’ve found that the community is incredibly helpful! To try and answer your questions:

1. You seem to have a really good grasp on how the creation of new breeds work! Grade horses are kind of a curse and a blessing. When any four horses are combined, it will most likely become a grade horse. This means that for recipes requiring two mixes to be bred (ie Arabian x NAB bred to Forest x Tarpan) the result is quite likely to be a grade. In order to prevent this, we first need to make sure we actually have the correct horses. If the recipe calls for Arabian x NAB, NAB x Arabian won’t work. The breeds must be listed in the right order. Next, the evaluation is really important. I don’t have a ton of experience with creating breeds, but I’ve noticed it’s almost impossible unless you have a 5* evaluation, either for each horse or third offspring (meaning if one horse is a hand too tall and one is a hand too short, the foal will probably be just right)

While grades are kind of annoying, they can also be really useful. If you breed one with a better evaluation to one of your horses, it will result in a half of that breed. (Arabian bred to grade results in half Arabian). These can be used in breed recipes. This horse will likely have a better evaluation, therefore increasing your chance of creating the new breed.

2. Having a good grinder is absolutely vital. They are the most effective way of getting money, and the community can usually provide one or a few good horses for new players to use. I usually just toss mine into local shows, as you get the money immediately without having to wait for judging, but if your horse is good enough it might be worth putting it in a few player-made competitions. I recommend accessing them through the horse’s profile, as this will automatically filter out any shows the horse isn’t eligible for. You can choose the discipline you want to compete in, and then you sign the horse up for the competitions you want. You can sign up for ten shows every turn, so if you want to join any more, you’ll have to use a turn and advance time. These competitions are judged at a fixed time of day, so you’ll have to wait until then for the results. While it isn’t as fast as locals, it is possible to earn quite a lot of money if your horse is good enough.

I hope this was somewhat understandable. If not, blame my lack of sleep
Let us (the community) know if you have any more questions!

This is SO helpful! I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have definitely been doing some things wrong with my breeding haha! Thanks again for the help!

Here's a few corrections.

Recipe can work both ways. Tarpan x Arab to an NAB x Turk will work just as well as an Arab x Tarpan to a Turk x Arab. And it will work as an Arab x Turk to a Tarpan x Arab. Just as long as the correct breeds are with as the recipe suggests. Although there may be some suggestions otherwise, I haven't yet seen a successful case of switching the recipe breeds around. Such as using an arab x turk instead of an arab x tarpan.

Breeding new breeds will always be the chance of the new breed. The closer your foal is to 5 star, the better the odds of the correct breed coming out, but it's still just a chance, a coin flip of 50/50 of the new foal. We've had as few as 3 star foals pop for the correct breed.

That's it! Good suggestions, Emiisheartless, well written.