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How do you train for stamina and/or speed? Is there anything you can do for this specifically, or not?
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Aquila wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:33 pm How do you train for stamina and/or speed? Is there anything you can do for this specifically, or not?
If you choose options in the training, you'll see what they'll cover. As you click on those options, you'll see how much per session if you look at the bars.

Stamina is increased with: Duration, Lunge on Flat, Collection & Impulsion and Drag a Tire.

As far as player skills, you'll need to unlock the training regime. When you learn the first couple skills in training regime, you'll unlock additional, advanced training that will actually say 'Stamina' and 'Speed'.

Speed is the same as stamina above (as well as all of the stats). Each stat does have it's own work that affects it, you just have to take a closer look at what training you're doing.
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BlackOak2 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:53 pm
Aquila wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:33 pm How do you train for stamina and/or speed? Is there anything you can do for this specifically, or not?
If you choose options in the training, you'll see what they'll cover. As you click on those options, you'll see how much per session if you look at the bars.

Stamina is increased with: Duration, Lunge on Flat, Collection & Impulsion and Drag a Tire.

As far as player skills, you'll need to unlock the training regime. When you learn the first couple skills in training regime, you'll unlock additional, advanced training that will actually say 'Stamina' and 'Speed'.

Speed is the same as stamina above (as well as all of the stats). Each stat does have it's own work that affects it, you just have to take a closer look at what training you're doing.
Thanks! I've actually been doing all the activities you mentioned for stamina, but I haven't been able to work either of my adult horses for more than five or ten minutes; I'm assuming I'll able to work my horses for longer durations the fitter they get. I'm at Level 3 at the moment; when will I able to unlock the advanced training you mentioned?
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Aquila wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:18 pm
BlackOak2 wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:53 pm

If you choose options in the training, you'll see what they'll cover. As you click on those options, you'll see how much per session if you look at the bars.

Stamina is increased with: Duration, Lunge on Flat, Collection & Impulsion and Drag a Tire.

As far as player skills, you'll need to unlock the training regime. When you learn the first couple skills in training regime, you'll unlock additional, advanced training that will actually say 'Stamina' and 'Speed'.

Speed is the same as stamina above (as well as all of the stats). Each stat does have it's own work that affects it, you just have to take a closer look at what training you're doing.
Thanks! I've actually been doing all the activities you mentioned for stamina, but I haven't been able to work either of my adult horses for more than five or ten minutes; I'm assuming I'll able to work my horses for longer durations the fitter they get. I'm at Level 3 at the moment; when will I able to unlock the advanced training you mentioned?
If I remember correctly, you'll have player skills for training open up twice and then the third time, it opens fully into the specific stat training. But it's been quite awhile. :roll:

Yes, the longer your horse works, the longer it'll be able to work. The first few turns, you'll only be able to use those little minutes, but it'll get much better with the horse training and also when you learn up your player skills.

Just remember, somewhere between 75% and 80% of all the training time of any horse, will be used on training stamina. After that, all the rest of the stats train up like wildfire spreads. :lol:
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Re: Training for speed and stamina

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BlackOak2 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:00 pm
Aquila wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:18 pm
Thanks! I've actually been doing all the activities you mentioned for stamina, but I haven't been able to work either of my adult horses for more than five or ten minutes; I'm assuming I'll able to work my horses for longer durations the fitter they get. I'm at Level 3 at the moment; when will I able to unlock the advanced training you mentioned?
If I remember correctly, you'll have player skills for training open up twice and then the third time, it opens fully into the specific stat training. But it's been quite awhile. :roll:

Yes, the longer your horse works, the longer it'll be able to work. The first few turns, you'll only be able to use those little minutes, but it'll get much better with the horse training and also when you learn up your player skills.

Just remember, somewhere between 75% and 80% of all the training time of any horse, will be used on training stamina. After that, all the rest of the stats train up like wildfire spreads. :lol:
I hope the player skills for training open up soon! I'm definitely going to concentrate on lunging my horses for now. 8-)

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When should I enter player-hosted competitions with my horses?
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Aquila wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:18 pm
BlackOak2 wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:00 pm

If I remember correctly, you'll have player skills for training open up twice and then the third time, it opens fully into the specific stat training. But it's been quite awhile. :roll:

Yes, the longer your horse works, the longer it'll be able to work. The first few turns, you'll only be able to use those little minutes, but it'll get much better with the horse training and also when you learn up your player skills.

Just remember, somewhere between 75% and 80% of all the training time of any horse, will be used on training stamina. After that, all the rest of the stats train up like wildfire spreads. :lol:
I hope the player skills for training open up soon! I'm definitely going to concentrate on lunging my horses for now. 8-)

Edit:

When should I enter player-hosted competitions with my horses?
For the most part, it's suggested you don't try hosted competitions until your breeding program breaks into the 50k HGP area. But in reality, it can be helpful in determining where your breeding programs at and which horses you might want to keep for breeding, toward a specific discipline.

Here's your basic formula:
First, you want to breed out most or all of the bad and unwanted genes (keep and cull regime).
Next you want to aim for some quality and strengthen the wanted genes (from AC style horses and into the 45k HGP area).
Third you want to ready your horses toward a selected discipline (this is the 50k HGP to 60k HGP area).
Finally, you want to create a competitive bloodline. In this area (usually ongoing), you want to have a bloodline that's competitive, maintaining, usually a 60% WPS and upward, I aim for 70% WPS and upward. WPS is Win, Place, Show. You see this from hosted shows in the competition record on the first page of any horse that's competed in any discipline.

Take a look at this horse as an example:
Cobalt Basilisk

He has all the WPS sampling you could want. You want to look at the column headed with Win %.

However, all that said, here's the most basic definition of winning for this game: 'Take your two best horses and breed them together.' Repeat until you get to where you want to go. 8-)
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Re: Training for speed and stamina

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BlackOak2 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:49 pm
Aquila wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:18 pm

I hope the player skills for training open up soon! I'm definitely going to concentrate on lunging my horses for now. 8-)

Edit:

When should I enter player-hosted competitions with my horses?
For the most part, it's suggested you don't try hosted competitions until your breeding program breaks into the 50k HGP area. But in reality, it can be helpful in determining where your breeding programs at and which horses you might want to keep for breeding, toward a specific discipline.

Here's your basic formula:
First, you want to breed out most or all of the bad and unwanted genes (keep and cull regime).
Next you want to aim for some quality and strengthen the wanted genes (from AC style horses and into the 45k HGP area).
Third you want to ready your horses toward a selected discipline (this is the 50k HGP to 60k HGP area).
Finally, you want to create a competitive bloodline. In this area (usually ongoing), you want to have a bloodline that's competitive, maintaining, usually a 60% WPS and upward, I aim for 70% WPS and upward. WPS is Win, Place, Show. You see this from hosted shows in the competition record on the first page of any horse that's competed in any discipline.

Take a look at this horse as an example:
Cobalt Basilisk

He has all the WPS sampling you could want. You want to look at the column headed with Win %.

However, all that said, here's the most basic definition of winning for this game: 'Take your two best horses and breed them together.' Repeat until you get to where you want to go. 8-)
What is HGP? Cobalt Basilisk is awesome! :) His Win % is amazing!
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Re: Training for speed and stamina

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Aquila wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:42 pm
BlackOak2 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:49 pm

For the most part, it's suggested you don't try hosted competitions until your breeding program breaks into the 50k HGP area. But in reality, it can be helpful in determining where your breeding programs at and which horses you might want to keep for breeding, toward a specific discipline.

Here's your basic formula:
First, you want to breed out most or all of the bad and unwanted genes (keep and cull regime).
Next you want to aim for some quality and strengthen the wanted genes (from AC style horses and into the 45k HGP area).
Third you want to ready your horses toward a selected discipline (this is the 50k HGP to 60k HGP area).
Finally, you want to create a competitive bloodline. In this area (usually ongoing), you want to have a bloodline that's competitive, maintaining, usually a 60% WPS and upward, I aim for 70% WPS and upward. WPS is Win, Place, Show. You see this from hosted shows in the competition record on the first page of any horse that's competed in any discipline.

Take a look at this horse as an example:
Cobalt Basilisk

He has all the WPS sampling you could want. You want to look at the column headed with Win %.

However, all that said, here's the most basic definition of winning for this game: 'Take your two best horses and breed them together.' Repeat until you get to where you want to go. 8-)
What is HGP? Cobalt Basilisk is awesome! :) His Win % is amazing!
HGP is Horse Genetic Potential and is listed as a hard number just below your Breeder's Report.

This number is the formula of the Breeder's Report and the conformation (body form) all added together. It is essentially how many hard stat genes are added to the horse. It's meant to be a guide to help us determine how good a horse can be, but doesn't mean the horse will be worth anything when applied in hosted competitions. Our best horses (those that break records) are usually well below the maximum HGP being breed currently. HGP's in the higher and lower 50's and 60's versus our maximum areas in the low 70's.

In the area of the high 50's and low 60's, you should be aiming for your horses to be hitting some of those WPS numbers somewhere... that's IF you're aiming for your bloodline to be competitive. But also, keep in mind, not every successful competitor will produce well in the breeding shed and also the opposite is true, if a horse is miserable in hosted competitions, it doesn't mean they'll be miserable in the breeding shed. Some horses produce awesome foals when having failed miserably in competitions.

Cobalt Basilisk even isn't my best production, although he is only one of three record holders I've produced.
A line is far more valuable when they're competitive then when they're record holders, with the sole exception of producing more than one record holder. It's because only one record holder means only one set of 'stud' fees. If the whole line is competitive to a high point, then you have not just one horse, but multiple horses over multiple generations that can be sold, trained, competed, etc.

It comes down to us, our work on our lines, how we cull and keep and what our goals are. Unlike other games, color breeding is just as lucrative as other breeding can be (competitive, rare, low-COI, specialties).
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BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:21 pm
Aquila wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:42 pm

What is HGP? Cobalt Basilisk is awesome! :) His Win % is amazing!
HGP is Horse Genetic Potential and is listed as a hard number just below your Breeder's Report.

This number is the formula of the Breeder's Report and the conformation (body form) all added together. It is essentially how many hard stat genes are added to the horse. It's meant to be a guide to help us determine how good a horse can be, but doesn't mean the horse will be worth anything when applied in hosted competitions. Our best horses (those that break records) are usually well below the maximum HGP being breed currently. HGP's in the higher and lower 50's and 60's versus our maximum areas in the low 70's.

In the area of the high 50's and low 60's, you should be aiming for your horses to be hitting some of those WPS numbers somewhere... that's IF you're aiming for your bloodline to be competitive. But also, keep in mind, not every successful competitor will produce well in the breeding shed and also the opposite is true, if a horse is miserable in hosted competitions, it doesn't mean they'll be miserable in the breeding shed. Some horses produce awesome foals when having failed miserably in competitions.

Cobalt Basilisk even isn't my best production, although he is only one of three record holders I've produced.
A line is far more valuable when they're competitive then when they're record holders, with the sole exception of producing more than one record holder. It's because only one record holder means only one set of 'stud' fees. If the whole line is competitive to a high point, then you have not just one horse, but multiple horses over multiple generations that can be sold, trained, competed, etc.

It comes down to us, our work on our lines, how we cull and keep and what our goals are. Unlike other games, color breeding is just as lucrative as other breeding can be (competitive, rare, low-COI, specialties).
Thanks for explaining the HGB! The HGBs for my current horses are as follows :
Mare: 30,104
Stallion: 37,067
Filly: 32,566

I'm going to sell the filly and mare (Sea Fire has offered me some Arab youngstock grinders, better horses than my current horses - 60's to 70's -, and I'm going to accept; two fillies and a colt); I'm going to keep my stallion for now, because I can enter him in local competitions to earn money while I'm training the young horses.

I'm going to have to sell my current mare and filly before Sea Fire sells the other horses to me; I assume I just click on the Sell Horse button for each of them, and put "offers only".

Here are the mare and filly:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4532122
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4532135
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Aquila wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:53 am
BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:21 pm

HGP is Horse Genetic Potential and is listed as a hard number just below your Breeder's Report.

This number is the formula of the Breeder's Report and the conformation (body form) all added together. It is essentially how many hard stat genes are added to the horse. It's meant to be a guide to help us determine how good a horse can be, but doesn't mean the horse will be worth anything when applied in hosted competitions. Our best horses (those that break records) are usually well below the maximum HGP being breed currently. HGP's in the higher and lower 50's and 60's versus our maximum areas in the low 70's.

In the area of the high 50's and low 60's, you should be aiming for your horses to be hitting some of those WPS numbers somewhere... that's IF you're aiming for your bloodline to be competitive. But also, keep in mind, not every successful competitor will produce well in the breeding shed and also the opposite is true, if a horse is miserable in hosted competitions, it doesn't mean they'll be miserable in the breeding shed. Some horses produce awesome foals when having failed miserably in competitions.

Cobalt Basilisk even isn't my best production, although he is only one of three record holders I've produced.
A line is far more valuable when they're competitive then when they're record holders, with the sole exception of producing more than one record holder. It's because only one record holder means only one set of 'stud' fees. If the whole line is competitive to a high point, then you have not just one horse, but multiple horses over multiple generations that can be sold, trained, competed, etc.

It comes down to us, our work on our lines, how we cull and keep and what our goals are. Unlike other games, color breeding is just as lucrative as other breeding can be (competitive, rare, low-COI, specialties).
Thanks for explaining the HGB! The HGBs for my current horses are as follows :
Mare: 30,104
Stallion: 37,067
Filly: 32,566

I'm going to sell the filly and mare (Sea Fire has offered me some Arab youngstock grinders, better horses than my current horses - 60's to 70's -, and I'm going to accept; two fillies and a colt); I'm going to keep my stallion for now, because I can enter him in local competitions to earn money while I'm training the young horses.

I'm going to have to sell my current mare and filly before Sea Fire sells the other horses to me; I assume I just click on the Sell Horse button for each of them, and put "offers only".

Here are the mare and filly:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4532122
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4532135
:D It looks like you've set up some goals and are moving forward with them. Good Luck! Any additional questions I or another member of the community will step forward to help

I sent you some monies for your two horses to help you set up a barn. Should be more than plenty to get you moving. But you don't need to purchase a barn with the monies. It's entirely up to you.
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