Help breeding new breed?

[VortexCar]

So my plan was to breed some Sorraia's but It isnt working, I keep getting Half Tarpan [50%]'s for some reason, could someone help me out?

With EVAL do I check for the breed that I am trying to get "Sorraia" or the one that it is "Tarpan x Mongolian".

Sorraia = [ Tarpan x Mongolian ] x [ Tarpan x West African Barb ]

Main Areas I try to store them in:
Area 1
Area 2

(Also tips for how to search in forms? I tried looking for "New breed's" but it said it was too common)

[BlackOak2]

So my plan was to breed some Sorraia's but It isnt working, I keep getting Half Tarpan [50%]'s for some reason, could someone help me out?

With EVAL do I check for the breed that I am trying to get "Sorraia" or the one that it is "Tarpan x Mongolian".

Sorraia = [ Tarpan x Mongolian ] x [ Tarpan x West African Barb ]

Main Areas I try to store them in:
Area 1
Area 2

(Also tips for how to search in forms? I tried looking for "New breed's" but it said it was too common)

Firstly, the tips for searching in the forums, use my quicklinks if you get stuck, instead. I have a number of helpful topics linked.

Now onto the issue at hand.

You evaluate for the 'next recipe horse' in your recipe, so if you're going for the sorraia, you evaluate for the sorraia. Sorraia's tend to be difficult to get. Some hints to help out is breeding shorter (maybe too short) colts and taller (maybe too tall) fillies. Your primary issue is likely and probably too much horse and not enough pony. So aim for tarpans that are more pony-like. AC tarpans tend to want to become more horse with breeding and the west african barbs are right on that same line. So also evaluate your failed foals to see what they evaluate to, for the Sorraia and you can begin to get an idea of where they're failing. Then you can get an idea of what parents to pair together. For example, do all the foals come out too tall? Then choose a shorter partner. If they come out too much horse, then choose a heavier partner.

After taking a glance at a few of your horses, your main issue is that they're too light (too much horse) to get to where you want to go. So you'll either need to create more or also favor heavier parents to get there.

Does that make sense?

[VortexCar]

Firstly, the tips for searching in the forums, use my quicklinks if you get stuck, instead. I have a number of helpful topics linked.

Now onto the issue at hand.

You evaluate for the 'next recipe horse' in your recipe, so if you're going for the sorraia, you evaluate for the sorraia. Sorraia's tend to be difficult to get. Some hints to help out is breeding shorter (maybe too short) colts and taller (maybe too tall) fillies. Your primary issue is likely and probably too much horse and not enough pony. So aim for tarpans that are more pony-like. AC tarpans tend to want to become more horse with breeding and the west african barbs are right on that same line. So also evaluate your failed foals to see what they evaluate to, for the Sorraia and you can begin to get an idea of where they're failing. Then you can get an idea of what parents to pair together. For example, do all the foals come out too tall? Then choose a shorter partner. If they come out too much horse, then choose a heavier partner.

After taking a glance at a few of your horses, your main issue is that they're too light (too much horse) to get to where you want to go. So you'll either need to create more or also favor heavier parents to get there.

Does that make sense?

Ahh I see! That makes a lot of sense, could I try and speed things with with breeding two mixes like "West African Barb x Tarpan [50%]" and will it come out like that 50% or will it become a part mixed Tarpan/WAB etc? I'll give that a try to balance things, might take a few tries before I figure things out. Just to clarify— are there like rules for breeds? like would an EVAL 4 be enough, or do I need EVAL 5? And does the body type need to be strictly 'Pony,' or can something really close still work?

[BlackOak2]

Firstly, the tips for searching in the forums, use my quicklinks if you get stuck, instead. I have a number of helpful topics linked.

Now onto the issue at hand.

You evaluate for the 'next recipe horse' in your recipe, so if you're going for the sorraia, you evaluate for the sorraia. Sorraia's tend to be difficult to get. Some hints to help out is breeding shorter (maybe too short) colts and taller (maybe too tall) fillies. Your primary issue is likely and probably too much horse and not enough pony. So aim for tarpans that are more pony-like. AC tarpans tend to want to become more horse with breeding and the west african barbs are right on that same line. So also evaluate your failed foals to see what they evaluate to, for the Sorraia and you can begin to get an idea of where they're failing. Then you can get an idea of what parents to pair together. For example, do all the foals come out too tall? Then choose a shorter partner. If they come out too much horse, then choose a heavier partner.

After taking a glance at a few of your horses, your main issue is that they're too light (too much horse) to get to where you want to go. So you'll either need to create more or also favor heavier parents to get there.

Does that make sense?

Ahh I see! That makes a lot of sense, could I try and speed things with with breeding two mixes like "West African Barb x Tarpan [50%]" and will it come out like that 50% or will it become a part mixed Tarpan/WAB etc? I'll give that a try to balance things, might take a few tries before I figure things out. Just to clarify— are there like rules for breeds? like would an EVAL 4 be enough, or do I need EVAL 5? And does the body type need to be strictly 'Pony,' or can something really close still work?

We've had reports in the past, of the desired breed outcome being born with 4 stars and even a 3 star. So the resulting foal doesn't need to be five star to be the new breed. However, it does raise the chances. That said, even with a perfect 5 star foal, it's still a roll of the die to be the new breed or not.

Breeding 50/50 horse with the exact same 50/50 horse will result in a foal that's still 50/50.

Think of the parents like this, and I'll use height as the easiest example.
Parent A is 16 hands.
Parent B is 14 hands.
Parent A carries a range of genes in it for 13.3 hands to 17.0 hands.
Parent B carries a range of genes in it for 13.3 hands to 15.0 hands.

The resulting foal has inherited a range of genes in it for 14.3 hands to 17.0 hands and comes out at 17.0 hands.

Your parents carry ranges in them. To narrow those ranges, cull out foals that sit on the ends of those ranges that you don't want. In this way, you can narrow the ranges that are passed onward to the foals. By favoring the heavier foals (more toward pony, use the evaluations to help guide you), then you can get rid of more of those parents that favor the horse (lighter) side.

Any more questions?

[BlackOak2]

Also, the recipes don't need to be exactly 50/50. As long as the breeds are labeled, you'll be good to go. And only those breeds are labeled. If your recipe asks for... [arab x tarpan] x arab, you can use a mixed arab x tarpan (5%) and breed it to a half arab and get the correct breed out of it. But you wouldn't be able to use an arab x NAB (90%) and breed it to an arab x tarpan and expect the same result, because that won't match the recipe.