Temperament Talk

[Sea Fire]

Okay in the last couple days I've gotten back on I've managed to change up to ten horses temperament from BP to calm then High-strung. However, for the life of me I can't figure out the equation to get their temperament to spirited. For those well versed how on earth do you get it to spirited? I've tried changing food and amounts, combining feeds and everything I could think of. Even those born spirited I wound up making them HS on accident. I've put them in barns, left the in pasture full of grass, and some with no grass.

[BlackOak2]

Okay, our feeding system has had an overhaul (sometime last year, summer, if my memory serves), so changing temperament has also changed. Now, there is no such thing as a 'stuck' temperament and although it's been rolled back, there is now a maximum temperament that our babies are born with. Something to the effect of: if born bombproof, then the highest temp to be achieved may be even and that's the same for the other end of the spectrum, those born high-strung, may only be able to fall to even. That's not the hard numbers, just an example. But like I said, although we HAD this, because of some issues with some players, admin rolled this back, but warned us that it will be returning at some point.

What Player Mode are you using? If you're competing horses (or training) I suggest the competitors mode. This mode will make controlling feeding a little easier.

Although, you must also take into account the genes that control how quickly a horse moves through temperaments as well. Even in competitor mode, a horse may only have as little as 3 or 4 turns before it moves from one temp and into another. I did have a little fun with it a bit ago and here's my suggestions:
Barn.
Take a close look at the feeding and use the incremental points we have now.
Although you'll have to micro-manage the feeding, I've found that the easiest way to get it, is to first set the temperament where you want it (or get close to it). For spirited, get a horse to high-strung or even.
Then use 2 to 4 ticks above fiber green (you know, that area that the bar when the faded green switches to brilliant green) and 2 to 4 ticks above sugar green. Fill the rest with protein.
If you need the horse to go up in temperament, you'll put your ticks into the sugar (and zero additional into fiber, sitting AT that line where faded turns to brilliant green). If down, more into the fiber (and point zero additional into sugar).
Watch closely each turn. There may be no visible changes for awhile. Aim for maximum 4 months turn usage before changing something. That should be plenty of time to see some change.
When you have the temperament you want, change your ticks to the 2 to 4 for fiber and sugar. What I've seen is that each horse will need a little different balance between the two fiber/sugar bars. I had one maintain their temperament with 4 ticks in fiber and 2 in sugar, although the other two I played with preferred 2 in fiber and 3 in sugar and then I had one additional that no matter what I did, it would go slowly upward and slowly downward through temperaments.

For the most part, I used corn and alfalfa cubes. Then performance to fill up any leftover ration amount.

Does that help any?

[Sea Fire]

Okay, our feeding system has had an overhaul (sometime last year, summer, if my memory serves), so changing temperament has also changed. Now, there is no such thing as a 'stuck' temperament and although it's been rolled back, there is now a maximum temperament that our babies are born with. Something to the effect of: if born bombproof, then the highest temp to be achieved may be even and that's the same for the other end of the spectrum, those born high-strung, may only be able to fall to even. That's not the hard numbers, just an example. But like I said, although we HAD this, because of some issues with some players, admin rolled this back, but warned us that it will be returning at some point.

What Player Mode are you using? If you're competing horses (or training) I suggest the competitors mode. This mode will make controlling feeding a little easier.

Although, you must also take into account the genes that control how quickly a horse moves through temperaments as well. Even in competitor mode, a horse may only have as little as 3 or 4 turns before it moves from one temp and into another. I did have a little fun with it a bit ago and here's my suggestions:
Barn.
Take a close look at the feeding and use the incremental points we have now.
Although you'll have to micro-manage the feeding, I've found that the easiest way to get it, is to first set the temperament where you want it (or get close to it). For spirited, get a horse to high-strung or even.
Then use 2 to 4 ticks above fiber green (you know, that area that the bar when the faded green switches to brilliant green) and 2 to 4 ticks above sugar green. Fill the rest with protein.
If you need the horse to go up in temperament, you'll put your ticks into the sugar (and zero additional into fiber, sitting AT that line where faded turns to brilliant green). If down, more into the fiber (and point zero additional into sugar).
Watch closely each turn. There may be no visible changes for awhile. Aim for maximum 4 months turn usage before changing something. That should be plenty of time to see some change.
When you have the temperament you want, change your ticks to the 2 to 4 for fiber and sugar. What I've seen is that each horse will need a little different balance between the two fiber/sugar bars. I had one maintain their temperament with 4 ticks in fiber and 2 in sugar, although the other two I played with preferred 2 in fiber and 3 in sugar and then I had one additional that no matter what I did, it would go slowly upward and slowly downward through temperaments.

For the most part, I used corn and alfalfa cubes. Then performance to fill up any leftover ration amount.

Does that help any?

Yes that's extremely helpful thank you! I took a break for about a year or two so trying to catch up on all the new stuff! I usually don't have the ability to change my status so just figured out I could move it . Something new for me to try as well. I'll definitely use this and tweak it as it as I go.

[BlackOak2]

Okay, our feeding system has had an overhaul (sometime last year, summer, if my memory serves), so changing temperament has also changed. Now, there is no such thing as a 'stuck' temperament and although it's been rolled back, there is now a maximum temperament that our babies are born with. Something to the effect of: if born bombproof, then the highest temp to be achieved may be even and that's the same for the other end of the spectrum, those born high-strung, may only be able to fall to even. That's not the hard numbers, just an example. But like I said, although we HAD this, because of some issues with some players, admin rolled this back, but warned us that it will be returning at some point.

What Player Mode are you using? If you're competing horses (or training) I suggest the competitors mode. This mode will make controlling feeding a little easier.

Although, you must also take into account the genes that control how quickly a horse moves through temperaments as well. Even in competitor mode, a horse may only have as little as 3 or 4 turns before it moves from one temp and into another. I did have a little fun with it a bit ago and here's my suggestions:
Barn.
Take a close look at the feeding and use the incremental points we have now.
Although you'll have to micro-manage the feeding, I've found that the easiest way to get it, is to first set the temperament where you want it (or get close to it). For spirited, get a horse to high-strung or even.
Then use 2 to 4 ticks above fiber green (you know, that area that the bar when the faded green switches to brilliant green) and 2 to 4 ticks above sugar green. Fill the rest with protein.
If you need the horse to go up in temperament, you'll put your ticks into the sugar (and zero additional into fiber, sitting AT that line where faded turns to brilliant green). If down, more into the fiber (and point zero additional into sugar).
Watch closely each turn. There may be no visible changes for awhile. Aim for maximum 4 months turn usage before changing something. That should be plenty of time to see some change.
When you have the temperament you want, change your ticks to the 2 to 4 for fiber and sugar. What I've seen is that each horse will need a little different balance between the two fiber/sugar bars. I had one maintain their temperament with 4 ticks in fiber and 2 in sugar, although the other two I played with preferred 2 in fiber and 3 in sugar and then I had one additional that no matter what I did, it would go slowly upward and slowly downward through temperaments.

For the most part, I used corn and alfalfa cubes. Then performance to fill up any leftover ration amount.

Does that help any?

Yes that's extremely helpful thank you! I took a break for about a year or two so trying to catch up on all the new stuff! I usually don't have the ability to change my status so just figured out I could move it . Something new for me to try as well. I'll definitely use this and tweak it as it as I go.

Oh, I also forgot to add, that with the feeding overhaul, admin was able to get rid of that feeding bug that harassed us randomly. So if you come across a horse now that seems bugged in feeding, definitely send it to the bug forum. And also, our horses can eat more properly now. So even tiny ponies should be able to eat in stables. You may still see some that can't, but there's a great deal more now, that can.

[Sea Fire]

Oh, I also forgot to add, that with the feeding overhaul, admin was able to get rid of that feeding bug that harassed us randomly. So if you come across a horse now that seems bugged in feeding, definitely send it to the bug forum. And also, our horses can eat more properly now. So even tiny ponies should be able to eat in stables. You may still see some that can't, but there's a great deal more now, that can.

Perfect! thank you!

[Woodstock]

Okay in the last couple days I've gotten back on I've managed to change up to ten horses temperament from BP to calm then High-strung. However, for the life of me I can't figure out the equation to get their temperament to spirited. For those well versed how on earth do you get it to spirited? I've tried changing food and amounts, combining feeds and everything I could think of. Even those born spirited I wound up making them HS on accident. I've put them in barns, left the in pasture full of grass, and some with no grass.

I'm just going to chime in here because I have to keep my comp horses at spirited for Cross Country so I have been fighting this battle as well!

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4456086 this guy has been maintaining spirited really well at 34% alfalfa hay and 66% performance mix. Depending on the horse some have needed a few % higher for alfalfa hay and lower for performance mix and vice versa. To get them here I do 100% yellow corn to get to high strung, then switch to 95% alfalfa hay and 5% weight gain and watch closely until they hit spirited and then go to the alfalfa hay and performance mix. I have been finding that with age around 5 when they stop growing they have been evening out on the temperament side and have been easier to maintain.

Sorry about the jumble! Hope this is understandable and if you have any questions let me know!
-Woodstock

[Sea Fire]

Okay in the last couple days I've gotten back on I've managed to change up to ten horses temperament from BP to calm then High-strung. However, for the life of me I can't figure out the equation to get their temperament to spirited. For those well versed how on earth do you get it to spirited? I've tried changing food and amounts, combining feeds and everything I could think of. Even those born spirited I wound up making them HS on accident. I've put them in barns, left the in pasture full of grass, and some with no grass.

I'm just going to chime in here because I have to keep my comp horses at spirited for Cross Country so I have been fighting this battle as well!

https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/4456086 this guy has been maintaining spirited really well at 34% alfalfa hay and 66% performance mix. Depending on the horse some have needed a few % higher for alfalfa hay and lower for performance mix and vice versa. To get them here I do 100% yellow corn to get to high strung, then switch to 95% alfalfa hay and 5% weight gain and watch closely until they hit spirited and then go to the alfalfa hay and performance mix. I have been finding that with age around 5 when they stop growing they have been evening out on the temperament side and have been easier to maintain.

Sorry about the jumble! Hope this is understandable and if you have any questions let me know!
-Woodstock

Amazing thank you! I have four horses I'm trying to change so I'll switch one to your equation and see how it works. Thanks for your input!

[Sea Fire]

To add to this discussion here. I have been training this horse (leisurely) and he naturally went from calm to spirited and stayed that way for at least 6 turns before going to HS I then brought him down to 60% alfalfa cubes (he was on 70 yellow corn) and he went straight back to Spirited in 1-2 turns. I also got one other horse to change to spirited. She was performance and yellow corn both at 100%. Once she hit spirited I changed her to 95 alfalfa hay and 5 performance. SO we'll see what she does. The other have needed higher yellow corn content and have slowly raised to E/T so now just waiting for them. Making a couple tweaks and seeing where this goes.

Horse in question
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3734392

Mare who also raised
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/3409553

edit to add, she changed back to HS after 2 more turns so I'll be changing her feed to Alfalfa cubes with performance

Edit to add again I also have kept this horse I've been training in a pasture where he's been keeping his temperament while all the others are in the barns due to not being able to change temperament. Once I get some more turns I'm going to move another horse to the same pasture and see if it makes any difference.

[Sea Fire]

Just wanted to shoot out another update. Managed to change and hold my spirited tempts on 7 horses. I haven't figured out the best equation yet but once I do I will post it in here for anyone else and my future self who will probably forget it!

[BlackOak2]