Condition Penalty

Skraythrax Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:38 pm Posts: 78

Post by Skraythrax » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:19 pm

Does anyone have any theories about what constitutes the "condition penalty" in endurance racing events? Before all of the feeding changes, I assumed it had to do with a horse's weight and fatigue level from training. Now I am wondering if it has anything to do with meeting the fiber, protein, and sugar requirements of the horse as well. Looking at a few of the current winning horses seems to anecdotally support this theory.

Malakai20 Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:44 am Posts: 261

Re: Condition Penalty

Post by Malakai20 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:48 pm

Skraythrax wrote:Does anyone have any theories about what constitutes the "condition penalty" in endurance racing events? Before all of the feeding changes, I assumed it had to do with a horse's weight and fatigue level from training. Now I am wondering if it has anything to do with meeting the fiber, protein, and sugar requirements of the horse as well. Looking at a few of the current winning horses seems to anecdotally support this theory.

As far as I know, it depends on weight, temperament and body shape, along with, of course, training, GP and stats.

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Post by kkreads » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:02 pm

I have a mare who I put in level 1 endurance racing and she got a condition penalty of 3.1 .

She is also pregnant.
Does here being pregnant have to do with condition penalty?

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Re: ???????

Post by Fox13 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:28 pm

kkreads wrote:I have a mare who I put in level 1 endurance racing and she got a condition penalty of 3.1 .

She is also pregnant.
Does here being pregnant have to do with condition penalty?

I do not believe pregnancy affects anything right now (nominally because we can still do whatever we want with them, regardless of being pregnant). A mare doesn't seem to change her winning percentage or scoring percentage regardless of pregnancy progression (at least in my experience).
Penalty scores are determined (as far as I know as well) by what Malakai offered: weight, temperament, body shape (or conformation), training and breeder's report.
Although I don't believe it has been added yet, energy level and fatigue may be included (actually I think personally it should only be fatigue).

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Re: Condition Penalty

Post by Mysister » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:42 pm

I've never figured it out - I've had healthy horses score lower than moderately fat ones. That threw me off right there.