Help with colors!

[Emlyn]

Im currently trying to breed for a Grey dapple! could someone tell me what color this foal is and what my next breeding step is? Thank you!!

Foal

[Nazarach]

Im currently trying to breed for a Grey dapple! could someone tell me what color this foal is and what my next breeding step is? Thank you!!

Foal

Hi there ^^
your foal is a Smoky Black w/ LP - meaning a black base with one cream gene (the foal-coat is a quite cold brown - which often indicates smoky) and Tiger Complex expressed in the blanket covering its behind.

For dapples you'd need a black base and the Silver gene (like her sire)- if you'd like pure dapples try to find a horse without lp as it usually causes varnish which darkens the horses original coat with age.

you could also find more lp carriers if you'd like a somewhat 'dapple'-like coat like her granddam on the dams side (green monster).

if you really want a Grey dapple - meaning a dappled coat caused by progressing grey, then use black based horses and grey carriers;

if you mean grey and dapple caused by silver (which is a bit pointless as grey would soon cover/vanish the silver-based dapples) then your foals parents are still a good pairing... well, if you can get a lp free foal out of them ^^'

Anyhow, I hope this helped a bit otherwise feel free to ask for clarification

[Emlyn]

Im currently trying to breed for a Grey dapple! could someone tell me what color this foal is and what my next breeding step is? Thank you!!

Foal

Hi there ^^
your foal is a Smoky Black w/ LP - meaning a black base with one cream gene (the foal-coat is a quite cold brown - which often indicates smoky) and Tiger Complex expressed in the blanket covering its behind.

For dapples you'd need a black base and the Silver gene (like her sire)- if you'd like pure dapples try to find a horse without lp as it usually causes varnish which darkens the horses original coat with age.

you could also find more lp carriers if you'd like a somewhat 'dapple'-like coat like her granddam on the dams side (green monster).

if you really want a Grey dapple - meaning a dappled coat caused by progressing grey, then use black based horses and grey carriers;

if you mean grey and dapple caused by silver (which is a bit pointless as grey would soon cover/vanish the silver-based dapples) then your foals parents are still a good pairing... well, if you can get a lp free foal out of them ^^'

Anyhow, I hope this helped a bit otherwise feel free to ask for clarification

Thank you it did help a lot!
one question: What do a silver gene and black base look like?
lol I'm not the best with horse colors

[Pieta]

Hi there ^^
your foal is a Smoky Black w/ LP - meaning a black base with one cream gene (the foal-coat is a quite cold brown - which often indicates smoky) and Tiger Complex expressed in the blanket covering its behind.

For dapples you'd need a black base and the Silver gene (like her sire)- if you'd like pure dapples try to find a horse without lp as it usually causes varnish which darkens the horses original coat with age.

you could also find more lp carriers if you'd like a somewhat 'dapple'-like coat like her granddam on the dams side (green monster).

if you really want a Grey dapple - meaning a dappled coat caused by progressing grey, then use black based horses and grey carriers;

if you mean grey and dapple caused by silver (which is a bit pointless as grey would soon cover/vanish the silver-based dapples) then your foals parents are still a good pairing... well, if you can get a lp free foal out of them ^^'

Anyhow, I hope this helped a bit otherwise feel free to ask for clarification

Thank you it did help a lot!
one question: What do a silver gene and black base look like?
lol I'm not the best with horse colors

Black based coat colours are all coat colours that aren't based on chestnut. You can read more abaut coat colours here.

[Nazarach]

Thank you it did help a lot!
one question: What do a silver gene and black base look like?
lol I'm not the best with horse colors

Black based coat colours are all coat colours that aren't based on chestnut. You can read more abaut coat colours here.

The guide is really helpfull! So be sure to take a look (or just bookmark it and read when necessary), personally I like playing detective for the genetics involved and am quite thankfull this game doesn't handfeed us these informations ^^'

In my answer is said black based; perhaps I shoould have been more precise (sry v.v) only black - non-agouti - coats can express the dapples from silver. Any color apart from black, meaning brown or bay can show silver - but will never express dapples.

Black is somewhat unusual as its the only coat where foal pics under 1 year are really helpfull as only birth-coats show if there is cream involved - which can change the exact shade you might prefere for your silver blacks.

F.e.
'pure black' looks like this
as foal

as an adult


compared to cream



the shade of reddish-brown can vary. Only if the brown seems a more cold, greyish/yellow shade will there be cream involved.

A silver black can be either with - or without dapples - regardless of their parents expression.
silver black looks like this
as foal

as an adult

silver smoky (smoky meaning 1 cream gene) black appears
as foal (this one has very faint dapples)

as an adult

[Silverine]

Just popping in to note that the original foal in question does not have a cream gene. It appears somewhat faded from the usual "fiery" black of a newborn because the gallery picture was taken at 3 months, after the color had already shifted a bit.