Searching For Stallion, Very Strong WPS, Tb, Tb mix or Grade

[Sawd10]

Another colt... oh well.

Hmm, yes, another Champagne with Tobiano. He's acceptable, pretty nice 5 stat-er. Best of luck with what he give you!

Tell me if, or when, you would want another studding to Dom Perignon, and your interests in out-breeding or buying Northern Lights and/or Spring Rosebud.

[BlackOak2]

Another colt... oh well.

Hmm, yes, another Champagne with Tobiano. He's acceptable, pretty nice 5 stat-er. Best of luck with what he give you!

Tell me if, or when, you would want another studding to Dom Perignon, and your interests in out-breeding or buying Northern Lights and/or Spring Rosebud.

I will. I'll make a decision on yea or nay before february is done. I'm being a bit of the 'on the fence' type again, but now that I'm aging out some of my former 'outbreed' studs, perhaps I'll feel differently in the next few days.

I would like to use Dom again, but now I need to find an appropriate mare.

Thank you again!

[Sawd10]

Hmm, yes, another Champagne with Tobiano. He's acceptable, pretty nice 5 stat-er. Best of luck with what he give you!

Tell me if, or when, you would want another studding to Dom Perignon, and your interests in out-breeding or buying Northern Lights and/or Spring Rosebud.

I will. I'll make a decision on yea or nay before february is done. I'm being a bit of the 'on the fence' type again, but now that I'm aging out some of my former 'outbreed' studs, perhaps I'll feel differently in the next few days.

I would like to use Dom again, but now I need to find an appropriate mare.

Thank you again!

Haha, sounds good.

[BlackOak2]

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Alright, I've waffled long enough of those two studs.

With no days left, my deadline has come.

I've decided that I'll purchase both of those studs from you, if they're still available.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2684279
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2745917

The good thing is that they'll be expected to hang around for more than a few months. So any passing interest you have to breed back to them will be still open and available.

I took another look at that sale barn again. That Thunder colt is certainly impressive. Really a shame he goes back to club lines!

Let me know, we'll work out a price that fits us both, though I'm sure we won't have much of a problem there.

By the way, those two colts that Dom gave me, the really nice one is pretty much 'pretty' only:
Oaken's Crystal Monk

He's got what appears to be the intermittent heart, but falls below my expectations of what he should've done. Of course, with such a strong outcome from both parents, I really didn't expect him to live up to those 'on-paper' expectations. The curse of that 'Oh! They threw this??!! foal.

However, his full brother is doing a bit differently:
Oaken's Solitary Tune

He's also showing traces of his sire's racing times (and his dame's lineage as well), posting 2 minute flats.

Either way, both of these horses hold the genes that I'm looking for.
Just an update for Dom's progeny.

[Sawd10]

Just an update for Dom's progeny.

Hello, Oak.

It's a shame that Crystal Monk has an intermittent heart! The name was so good, too. Haha. He's still not a bad prospect, and he could be put to good use. Sometimes there's that one pair that you just know would go well together. Maybe one day Crystal Monk could be paired with a mare that he might just do well with. I hope. Sometimes I keep the 'Oh, they threw this?!' foals because they may just be pretty, you may have spent a lot on the fee, or perhaps, like I said, you could one day fine a good mare or stallion to pair up with it. It's a gamble, but if you have a particular liking to the horse it doesn't hurt to keep it.
Otherwise still a trinket, you can always grind him out or keep him for the heck of it. But that can sometimes cause space problems.
Yes, I thought that Thunder would be a good match for your mares but I didn't realize that he unfortunately has club bloodlines in him! Maybe that just goes to show that you all in the Leopard Racers have been doing good enough to the point where you see a colt that has your lines in it that appeals to you.

Solitary Tune runs good times in Racing, like you said. He's got a relatively low WPS, but it's hard to keep a good WPS with Racing anyway, and his times are right on 2:00. I think that if you breed him to fast mares then he may soon produce some that run under 2:00, and that would probably be helpful for the Leopard Breeding. He's definitely better than his brother, and hmm.. I can't help but wonder where he got those beautiful looks from?!

Both of them are workable, and neither are terrible. Overall average or above-average prospects.

Now we can start on something of such an indecisive conversation. Selling those studs. Our long posts here have been like this:
-show update horses
-show prospects
-mares
-talk about the same thing in different phrases
-we are both indecisive and are not making progress
Just kidding. Oh, I also forgot to add "stupid jokes" to the list.

Aside from that, you said that they'll likely be frozen for a couple of months. While I'm not currently breeding my Thoroughbreds right now, I'll keep that in mind if anything changes in the months that they are frozen. Just let me know when you plan on aging them out.
I think that we pretty much already talked over all the pros and cons of both these stallions in previous posts, so I won't go into that again.
I'm good at pricing my own stock because I bred them, I know them the best, and I worked hard on them, but I'm not so great at pricing horses that I have not bred. I'll just give a random starting amount and we can work from there. More or less, depending on your insights and such.
We could work on something with Spring Rosebud from... I don't know, $1,000,000? $1,500,000? I think Northern Lights could work from around the same price as Spring Rosebud. Let me know what you had in mind.

[BlackOak2]

Aside from that, you said that they'll likely be frozen for a couple of months. While I'm not currently breeding my Thoroughbreds right now, I'll keep that in mind if anything changes in the months that they are frozen. Just let me know when you plan on aging them out.
I think that we pretty much already talked over all the pros and cons of both these stallions in previous posts, so I won't go into that again.
I'm good at pricing my own stock because I bred them, I know them the best, and I worked hard on them, but I'm not so great at pricing horses that I have not bred. I'll just give a random starting amount and we can work from there. More or less, depending on your insights and such.
We could work on something with Spring Rosebud from... I don't know, $1,000,000? $1,500,000? I think Northern Lights could work from around the same price as Spring Rosebud. Let me know what you had in mind.

Dom's sons will work, I just don't know how well they'll work! And the stud fee was well worth it. I actually like his younger brother, Solitary Tune better out of the two and as for Crystal, I'm hoping it's just a 'skip the generation' style. But still, they'll be used for their genes and finger-crossing that the heart still passes on, intermittent or otherwise.

SO difficult sometimes to come to a good conclusion for prices. Spring Rosebud may be a bit more difficult (if it wasn't you and me on this). Because my evaluation on him (for those Jewel bloodlines and COI) would certainly under-price him, compared to what another would and for those same reasons.
Northern Lights is a different story. I've purchased FameDaLupa stock in the past, as have you, so that price range is a little more better known.

So I think that range for either of them is a good, decent range to expect and probably one that I'd come to the conclusion of myself. Let's do... 1.6 million for Northern Lights (yes slightly more), but because he has the style WPS I'm looking for (I'll go as high as 1.8 for him, your choice), but I also expect him to be a strong breeder, so good usage... and... as for Spring Rosebud... I'm less-confident on him producing well with a broad-spectrum mare selection, however it does appear he can produce... so... 1.2 million... does that sound fair to both of us?

[Sawd10]

So I think that range for either of them is a good, decent range to expect and probably one that I'd come to the conclusion of myself. Let's do... 1.6 million for Northern Lights (yes slightly more), but because he has the style WPS I'm looking for (I'll go as high as 1.8 for him, your choice), but I also expect him to be a strong breeder, so good usage... and... as for Spring Rosebud... I'm less-confident on him producing well with a broad-spectrum mare selection, however it does appear he can produce... so... 1.2 million... does that sound fair to both of us?

Yes, this is why I barely sell horses! Prices are just difficult to work out.
I figured Spring Rosebud would be the difficult one out of the two, especially considering everybody has different thoughts on Jewels65 lines. Thankfully, though, we both have somewhat similar thoughts on the subject. He can produce, yes, and he is from the RH lines if my memory serves. However, all cons considered, the 1.2 million pricing sounds just fine to me.
Now, as for Northern Lights... he'll probably be a good breeder, and he has great times and is quite a lot younger than Spring Rosebud. But because he is not mature and he is not a proven sire, I think that 1.6 million is fair.

[GoldenCenter]

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Check these two. One is a mix, the other pure. Pure is a champion, mixed is grandchampion.


https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2864154
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2826656

[BlackOak2]

So I think that range for either of them is a good, decent range to expect and probably one that I'd come to the conclusion of myself. Let's do... 1.6 million for Northern Lights (yes slightly more), but because he has the style WPS I'm looking for (I'll go as high as 1.8 for him, your choice), but I also expect him to be a strong breeder, so good usage... and... as for Spring Rosebud... I'm less-confident on him producing well with a broad-spectrum mare selection, however it does appear he can produce... so... 1.2 million... does that sound fair to both of us?

Yes, this is why I barely sell horses! Prices are just difficult to work out.
I figured Spring Rosebud would be the difficult one out of the two, especially considering everybody has different thoughts on Jewels65 lines. Thankfully, though, we both have somewhat similar thoughts on the subject. He can produce, yes, and he is from the RH lines if my memory serves. However, all cons considered, the 1.2 million pricing sounds just fine to me.
Now, as for Northern Lights... he'll probably be a good breeder, and he has great times and is quite a lot younger than Spring Rosebud. But because he is not mature and he is not a proven sire, I think that 1.6 million is fair.

Sounds like we have a deal then. When you have them posted, I'll come collect them.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2684279 - Spring Rosebud
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2745917 - Northern Lights

I'm fine picking them up one at a time (why do I even say this? is it even necessary?? -_- ), in between other horses, so don't worry about needing posting spots if you and I don't sync our online times.

[Soaring Hooves]

lol sorry to hijack, but that just makes me really happy to see a horse of mine valued at 1.6 million

Yes, this is why I barely sell horses! Prices are just difficult to work out.
I figured Spring Rosebud would be the difficult one out of the two, especially considering everybody has different thoughts on Jewels65 lines. Thankfully, though, we both have somewhat similar thoughts on the subject. He can produce, yes, and he is from the RH lines if my memory serves. However, all cons considered, the 1.2 million pricing sounds just fine to me.
Now, as for Northern Lights... he'll probably be a good breeder, and he has great times and is quite a lot younger than Spring Rosebud. But because he is not mature and he is not a proven sire, I think that 1.6 million is fair.

Sounds like we have a deal then. When you have them posted, I'll come collect them.
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2684279 - Spring Rosebud
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2745917 - Northern Lights

I'm fine picking them up one at a time (why do I even say this? is it even necessary?? -_- ), in between other horses, so don't worry about needing posting spots if you and I don't sync our online times.