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Low confo but decent HGP?

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This horse only has over 40 in one stat (44 speed) but he has an ok HGP (54k) why is this?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2933356
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Re: Low confo but decent HGP?

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Royal Sport Horses wrote:This horse only has over 40 in one stat (44 speed) but he has an ok HGP (54k) why is this?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2933356
I'm not too sure on the question. And that horse appears to have been rehomed.

If you haven't figured it out yet, and if I'm on mark, the direct answer is that the overall HGP (BR) is a grouping of the hard genes the horse has and also the overall conformation (scores) the horse has. Meanwhile, the conformation (scores) is only the hard number on the horse's body conformation and not the genes for those stats.

So we can have excessively high scores in conformation with excessively low HGP, take a look, for instance, these low-GP project horses:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/farm/pasture/101476

And on the flip side, we can have excessively high overall HGP and very low scores. The scores are to aid us in defining whether the horse is talented (conformation wise) for a particular goal (like speed for sprints and racing), or if it's raw gene power itself, despite having rather awkward or awful overall conformation for that goal.

These numbers are our guides. :mrgreen:
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Ivy Stables Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:46 pm Posts: 1233

Re: Low confo but decent HGP?

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Royal Sport Horses wrote:This horse only has over 40 in one stat (44 speed) but he has an ok HGP (54k) why is this?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2933356
I'm not too sure on the question. And that horse appears to have been rehomed.

If you haven't figured it out yet, and if I'm on mark, the direct answer is that the overall HGP (BR) is a grouping of the hard genes the horse has and also the overall conformation (scores) the horse has. Meanwhile, the conformation (scores) is only the hard number on the horse's body conformation and not the genes for those stats.

So we can have excessively high scores in conformation with excessively low HGP, take a look, for instance, these low-GP project horses:
https://www.horseworldonline.net/farm/pasture/101476

And on the flip side, we can have excessively high overall HGP and very low scores. The scores are to aid us in defining whether the horse is talented (conformation wise) for a particular goal (like speed for sprints and racing), or if it's raw gene power itself, despite having rather awkward or awful overall conformation for that goal.

These numbers are our guides. :mrgreen:
Thanks, which is preferable, conformation or genes?
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Re: Low confo but decent HGP?

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Royal Sport Horses wrote: Thanks, which is preferable, conformation or genes?
For grinders, high conformation scores and 'average' HGP (45k to 55k or higher) usually produces one that can pull the firsts in level 10 locals. They generally also don't produce well, but look great 'on-paper'.

For stock building (a competition line for player-mades), you'll want to favor genes first (to about 55-60k minimum), then work on honing the conformation scores upward. These usually produce much better but look a bit more average 'on-paper'.

Those are the basics.

To really get into it a bit deeper, here's the heavy reading:
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14535&hilit

Good Luck! :lol: If things don't quite make sense in that heavy reading, feel free to post questions. :mrgreen:
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