Ultra rare colours

[Totina]

Yes, that horse has one cream gene as well. You can see it on the lighter areas that look a little golden. If the horse had no cream gene those areas would have been more red in colour.

And there is no chance of him being Brown Cream Silver? the sire I mean. I am just having a hard time grasping the concept of a double dilute to be so dark, going to start digging into the Cream dilution a little bit more though cause I like to learn

There is no chance that he has only a single cream. The other very obvious reason to that is that he has blue eyes. No horses in the game have blue eyes unless they have double cream or cream+pearl.

[Tjigra]

Isn't that double cream on brown, not bay, instead? His sire is a very interesting colour as well, to my obviously not so trained eye he looks brown based, and grandsire is quite definitely brown.

[Totina]

Isn't that double cream on brown, not bay, instead? His sire is a very interesting colour as well, to my obviously not so trained eye he looks brown based, and grandsire is quite definitely brown.

No, if he was brown he wouldn't have such dark legs and light body but the color on his legs would cover most of his coat. This is what double cream on brown looks like:

[Argent]

And there is no chance of him being Brown Cream Silver? the sire I mean. I am just having a hard time grasping the concept of a double dilute to be so dark, going to start digging into the Cream dilution a little bit more though cause I like to learn

There is no chance that he has only a single cream. The other very obvious reason to that is that he has blue eyes. No horses in the game have blue eyes unless they have double cream or cream+pearl.

Not true. Single cream horses can have blue eyes if they also have tiger eye.

[Totina]

Not true. Single cream horses can have blue eyes if they also have tiger eye.

Tiger eye in the game makes the eye colour more green or light brown, not blue/grey or sky blue.
On palomino with appaloosa pattern tiger eye look like this one:



They're grey but they are still slightly darker than a horse with double cream.

[Scythian]

Discussion on Horses for Sale, ISO BLACK HORSES W/BLUE EYES, inspired lessthanfish to post this beautiful colt with aquamarine eyes: (he's also a 6-gen Deliboz with 6 golds)

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/557437

[Devolare]

That colt looks like it's eyes are more green than blue, although I know that double tiger eye varies especially on black.

I had this girl, for example, who's eyes looked more yellow/green.

[Xant’hippe]

Yes, Exine' eyes look yellow-green. The appaloosa mare, Gold Head, seems to have greenish-tan or greenish-yellow. And the Deliboz colt is green-blue ... or maybe emerald green and the yellowish grass background makes them seem bluer by contrast-?

Wish they all had facial close-ups in their Galleries!

[Djeraya]

That could mean there might be multiple genes for Tiger Eye, one that causes green-blue and one that causes yellow-green!

[equagga]

Drifting Iris Bubbles


As best I can tell, she was a champagne silver dapple roan. She had a daughter who was similar, but with a darker base coat instead of the pale cream Iris had. Since I've never seen any others like them, I can't say for sure if her daughter is just a more richly pigmented champagne silver dapple or not. I don't think she was roan, at any rate, so that may account for the difference. Curiously, both look 'mealy' but there's no mealy in that herd whatsoever!

Alas, I didn't really want a bunch of them, as I'm not a fan of other silver combinations, so I never bred the daughter and the only offspring of Iris to carry on was a strikingly dark but otherwise ordinary blue roan.

(Also she's mislabeled as a silver bay on her profile. I really wish we could change colors listed on retirees - can't believe I never noticed it to fix it.)

I've still got a lot of champagne and roan in my NAB herd so maybe someday I'll reintroduce the silver.

Really wish I could stumble across some pearl carriers and make 'white' horses like the ones in this thread. . . double cremes tend to be pretty dark in my herds, even on chestnut bases, because I've got a knack for adopting horses with intense pigment even when I'm not trying to. It makes for impressive browns but sort of botches lighter colors! And my greys almost always turn out flea bitten. But, I don't use outside blood, so it's going to probably be a very very long time until I find pearl.