∰ The Whyle

[Bitapetrone]

The Whyle's primary focus is on breeding exceptional competition horses. Below I've summed up my current standing in each discipline as far as record scores are concerned:

Competition	Project	Record Held	Whyle High Score	Horse
Barrel Racing	Khosrow (WIP)	Yes	21.46	Rambler
Cross Country	Destrier	No	27.6	Tabor
Cutting	Destrier	Yes	14.31	Bi-Han
Dressage	Palfrey	Yes	51.07	Makavelo
Driven Dressage	Palfrey	Yes	55.49	Mirati
Endurance	Godolphin	Yes	18.87	Jager
Harness Racing	Darley	Yes	2:36.33	Graupel
Hunter	---	---	---	---
In-Hand Jumping	---	---	---	---
Log Pull	Rouncey: Sector I	Yes	64.7	Abihail
Marathon Driving	Rouncey: Sector III	---	---	---
Obstacle Driving	Rouncey: Sector II	Yes	58.55	Kintaro
Pole Bending	Galobar	Yes	27:41	934416
Racing	Darley	Yes	1:59.77	Daedalus
Reining	Destrier	Yes	55.37	Casaro
Saddleseat	Shales	Yes	65.27	Sideralis
Show Jumping	---	---	---	---
Sprint Racing	Galobar	Yes	40.17	Agambir
Steeplechasing	---	---	---	---
Western Pleasure	---	---	---	---
Western Trail	Destrier	No	59.85	594497
Working Ranch	Destrier	Yes	64.68	Boon

Below, my current projects are showcased in greater detail.

Destrier

Featured horse: Bi-Han

Horses should give an overall impression of balance and agility. They should be lithe and quick about it.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Old Iberian or “D” hip
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium-length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Working Ranch
— Secondary: Cutting and Reining

High Scores Held:

— Working Ranch
— Cutting
— Reining

Palfrey

Featured horse: Makavelo

Horses should give an overall impression of fluidity of motion. Note that this type is still a heavy work in progress, and many of my standards are undecided or not met.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Sturdy frame with a smooth transition from neck to back
— Stifle placed slightly behind point of hip
— Slightly sloping croup
— Sloped shoulder with good range of motion
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Dressage
— Secondary: Driving Dressage

High Scores Held:

— Dressage
— Driving Dressage

Shales

Featured horse: Sideralis

High spirited horses with exceptional balance and action. This project is still a WIP.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Lithe frame
— Slightly sloping croup
— Stifle should be slightly behind point of hip
— Medium to long length back
— Convex to straight, medium to long length head
— Strong, thick legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep flank
— Ideally 13h-16h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Saddleseat
— Secondary: --

High Scores Held:

— Saddleseat

Darley

Featured horse: Daedalus

Lean runners showcasing excellent speed and tenacity. This project is labeled as "Darley" in honor of one of the foundation horses used to create the Thoroughbred.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Lean frame
— Downhill build
— Long sloping hip with a forward stifle
— Medium to long length back
— Straight to slightly concave medium to long head
— Slender, sturdy legs
— Balanced to uphill build
— Deep rib cage leading into a lean flank.
— Ideally 15h-18h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Racing
— Secondary: Sprint Racing, Harness Racing

High Scores Held:

— Racing
— Sprint Racing
— Harness Racing

Godolphin

Featured horse: Jager

This project is still in development and not all conformation/aesthetic goals have been met. Tentatively this project is called "Godolphin" after the Arabian-type stallion.

Horses should have excellent endurance and a quick step. Short, strong backs with a deep heart girth and downhill build are ideal.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Sturdy, square frame with powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Long semi-convex to straight head
— Thin but sturdy legs
— Downhill build
— Deep heart girth and flank
— Ideally 13h-16h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Endurance

High Scores Held:

— Endurance

Khosrow

Featured horse: Rambler

Agile horses built for quick turns of speed.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Slightly downhill build
— Ideally 13h-16h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Barrel Racing
— Secondary: ---

High Scores Held:

— Barrel Racing

Galobar

Featured horse: Agambir

Us Galobars are natural sprinters. Very dangerous over short distances.

Aesthetic:

— Short to medium length, thick, upright mane
— Short to medium length, tail
— Black base coat
— Tiger eyes
— Turkmene “shine”

Conformation:

— Powerful, sloped shoulder with a deep tie in
— Mediumish Pony-Type build
— Powerful hindquarters
— Short to short-medium length back
— Convex to straight, short to medium-length head
— Strong but lean legs
— Downhill build
— Ideally 14h-17h

Discipline(s):

— Primary: Sprint Racing
— Secondary: ---

High Scores Held:

— Sprint Racing

[Farant]

Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?

[Bitapetrone]

Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?

Shanks! Right now I only really train the stallions unless I get a mare that looks particularly amazing. In the future the mares will be trained as well, but until I get the conformation that I seek more set in I'm only training the stallions to save a bit of time.

[Farant]

Hello!
Toldar is amazing! His COI is also great.
Let me ask you, do you only train stallions?

Shanks! Right now I only really train the stallions unless I get a mare that looks particularly amazing. In the future the mares will be trained as well, but until I get the conformation that I seek more set in I'm only training the stallions to save a bit of time.

How long did it take to get that type of horse, completely black and shiny? I didn't see even bay horses in your farm, they're pretty common.

[Bitapetrone]

How long did it take to get that type of horse, completely black and shiny? I didn't see even bay horses in your farm, they're pretty common.

It took a long time. I started with bays and black horses and tried to cement the black color in. Then I eventually added the Turkmene blood to get the shiny coat. It was difficult to keep the conformation and the other "aesthetic" bits I wanted at the same time. The upright mane and the short/medium tails were fun to keep going Lol.

[Farant]

It took a long time. I started with bays and black horses and tried to cement the black color in. Then I eventually added the Turkmene blood to get the shiny coat. It was difficult to keep the conformation and the other "aesthetic" bits I wanted at the same time. The upright mane and the short/medium tails were fun to keep going Lol.

So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?

[Bitapetrone]

So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?

Essentially, yes. I phased out the colors I didn't want (used to have a ton of bays/chestnuts and cream dilutes on black). In preparation for adding the Turkmene blood, I focused on traits that would help to counter the effect of adding them: heavier horses/uphill builds/sloping quarters, etc. By the time I added them in, it wasn't too rough to get back to the middle ground I wanted. I spent a lot of time planning out how best to get around their light builds. I still get extremely light horses sometimes with the foxy Turkmene faces.

[Farant]

So you disqualified every bay horse after some time from start, I guess? And Turkmene must add light type to your herd, did you use inbreeding with horses from previous generation (before Turkmene) to return medium build?

Essentially, yes. I phased out the colors I didn't want (used to have a ton of bays/chestnuts and cream dilutes on black). In preparation for adding the Turkmene blood, I focused on traits that would help to counter the effect of adding them: heavier horses/uphill builds/sloping quarters, etc. By the time I added them in, it wasn't too rough to get back to the middle ground I wanted. I spent a lot of time planning out how best to get around their light builds. I still get extremely light horses sometimes with the foxy Turkmene faces.

Well, I'm struggling now with too much light-type blood in my herd. That's why I'm so curious. But if even you get light horses after dozens of medium, I should prepare to work hard.
How high was HGP when you added the Turkmene?

[Bitapetrone]

Well, I'm struggling now with too much light-type blood in my herd. That's why I'm so curious. But if even you get light horses after dozens of medium, I should prepare to work hard.
How high was HGP when you added the Turkmene?

I'm assuming HGP is the genetic potential? Mine wasn't very high, but I only pay attention to intelligence, agility, balance and strength on the breeder report since I focus exclusively on Working Ranch. I never even look at the genetic potential. I do heavily scrutinize their conformation though. I had to keep quite a few heavier horses in my program to get mine back to where I wanted. I would breed several mares to a draft horse that I liked, then keep those foals and slowly infuse that cross back into my herd so I could beef them up without killing too much of the conformation I wanted to keep. I had to do a lot of this, as I found it difficult to add new things without harming the things I wanted to keep too much.

[Farant]

I'm assuming HGP is the genetic potential? Mine wasn't very high, but I only pay attention to intelligence, agility, balance and strength on the breeder report since I focus exclusively on Working Ranch. I never even look at the genetic potential. I do heavily scrutinize their conformation though. I had to keep quite a few heavier horses in my program to get mine back to where I wanted. I would breed several mares to a draft horse that I liked, then keep those foals and slowly infuse that cross back into my herd so I could beef them up without killing too much of the conformation I wanted to keep. I had to do a lot of this, as I found it difficult to add new things without harming the things I wanted to keep too much.

Yes! I noticed that better reports are from horses with better HGP. I'm getting heavy and very light horses from my mares very often, and it's a fun to choose who should be in my breeding herd.
BTW, I used one of your stallions, thank you for that.