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Element Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 11:16 pm Posts: 638

Re: Color real quick?

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Nazarach wrote:
Her color descriptor is already right :) she is a smoky brown with blanket (or just lp if you want to be more generic)
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Element Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 11:16 pm Posts: 638

Re: Color real quick?

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Nazarach wrote:
Her color descriptor is already right :) she is a smoky brown with blanket (or just lp if you want to be more generic)
Is she still the same color now?
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Element Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 11:16 pm Posts: 638

Re: Color real quick?

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Nazarach wrote:
s-soverton wrote:
hmm thank you when will he probably shed it, do you know.
normally at 1 year
whats his color now
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Re: Color real quick?

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s-soverton wrote:
whats his color now
Now, thats a handsome little Red Dun with Blanket and Tiger Eyes :D The mealy hid really pretty much his body, so I'm glad he turned out like this :)

The mare is still the same, no obvious signs for dun or mealy (at least I think) there
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Element Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 11:16 pm Posts: 638

Re: Color real quick?

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Nazarach wrote:
s-soverton wrote:
whats his color now
Now, thats a handsome little Red Dun with Blanket and Tiger Eyes :D The mealy hid really pretty much his body, so I'm glad he turned out like this :)

The mare is still the same, no obvious signs for dun or mealy (at least I think) there
Any clue about his leg stripes?
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Re: Color real quick?

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s-soverton wrote:
Nazarach wrote:
Now, thats a handsome little Red Dun with Blanket and Tiger Eyes :D The mealy hid really pretty much his body, so I'm glad he turned out like this :)

The mare is still the same, no obvious signs for dun or mealy (at least I think) there
Any clue about his leg stripes?
Leg striping is indicative of dun. :mrgreen:

Take a look at the following study to get more of an understanding on the dun gene:
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Malakai10 Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:05 pm Posts: 2398

Re: Color real quick?

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Tiger eye red dun snowcap. The difference between snowcap and blanket is that snowcap is homozygous for varnish roan (Lp/Lp) and a blanket is heterozygous for varnish roan (Lp/lp). Blanket spots look... different. Bigger and usually more numerous. Sometimes a bit faded of the edges as if it's a spot within a lighter spot. Look at the sire for comparison.
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Re: Color real quick?

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Nazarach wrote:
Her color descriptor is already right :) she is a smoky brown with blanket (or just lp if you want to be more generic)
Quick correction: lp and blanket are not interchangeable terms.

Lp/Lp (homozygous) and Lp/lp (heterozygous) are genes that cause varnish roan. Varnish roan is the 'on switch' for spotted colourations - spotted patterns will not show up without varnish roan although varnish roan can and will express without the spotted patterns. A varnish roan without a pattern gene can be labeled 'snowflake' - they have anywhere from a few to many white spots and bronze as they age. Varnish roan is dominant.

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The two pattern genes are PATN1 and PATN2. As far as I remember, PATN1 is dominant over PATN2 - however, I'm not entirely certain and they could be co-dominant, for all I know.

PATN1 is the pattern gene that causes leopard, near leopard, fewspot and near fewspot. PATN1/- in combination with Lp/lp will cause leopard and near leopard. PATN/- in combination with Lp/Lp causes fewspot and near fewspot.

Leopard:
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Near leopard:
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Fewspot:
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Near fewspot:
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PATN2 causes blanket. We generally call markings 'extended blanket' or 'extended snowcap' when the white extends up the back - not quite blanket/snowcap and yet not quite near leopard/fewspot. PATN2 and Lp/Lp causes snowcap and PATN2 with Lp/lp causes blanket.

Blanket:
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Snowcap:
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Extended blanket:
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Extended snowcap:
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There are also other genes that control things such as the distribution of white, spot size, spot density, etc.
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Element Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 11:16 pm Posts: 638

Re: Color real quick?

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Malakai10 wrote:
Tiger eye red dun snowcap. The difference between snowcap and blanket is that snowcap is homozygous for varnish roan (Lp/Lp) and a blanket is heterozygous for varnish roan (Lp/lp). Blanket spots look... different. Bigger and usually more numerous. Sometimes a bit faded of the edges as if it's a spot within a lighter spot. Look at the sire for comparison.
Ah ok, thank you :)
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Re: Color real quick?

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s-soverton wrote:
Malakai10 wrote: Tiger eye red dun snowcap. The difference between snowcap and blanket is that snowcap is homozygous for varnish roan (Lp/Lp) and a blanket is heterozygous for varnish roan (Lp/lp). Blanket spots look... different. Bigger and usually more numerous. Sometimes a bit faded of the edges as if it's a spot within a lighter spot. Look at the sire for comparison.
Ah ok, thank you :)
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