Sorry... Another colour I'm confused with

[jigsaw123123]

I'm definitely improving, however I don't see how I can differentiate whether this horse below has any CR genes or not. I think it is a champagne bay (CH_ A_), however I know that if the speckles around the nose and eyes are faint it is CH_ CR_ A_ and I don't know if this would count as 'faint'. All these colour guides are so helpful - I've learnt so much already. Just trying to fine tune the whole 'naming' bit, and the odd genetic gaps I have. Thanks in advance for your help.

Rusty Divo

[nyraeia]

I'm definitely improving, however I don't see how I can differentiate whether this horse below has any CR genes or not. I think it is a champagne bay (CH_ A_), however I know that if the speckles around the nose and eyes are faint it is CH_ CR_ A_ and I don't know if this would count as 'faint'. All these colour guides are so helpful - I've learnt so much already. Just trying to fine tune the whole 'naming' bit, and the odd genetic gaps I have. Thanks in advance for your help.

Rusty Divo

Don't be sorry, this is what this forum's here for :)
You are right, your horse is a champagne bay, this is called amber champagne.

An amber champagne with additional cream would be an amber cream. They look like this:


So quite a bit lighter! I also have saved a foal picture of her where you can see that they are also lighter at birth and that the freckles are really faint:


Genetics wise your horse is
E_ (= black-based) A_ (= bay) CH/ch (we can say that for sure because his sire doesn't have Champagne so Rusty can only have one CH) for these three loci :)

Edit: Oh I've just now noticed that he had really extreme Mealy as a foal. People are talking about it in this thread, if you're interested in that.

[jigsaw123123]

Thanks so much, yes I'm really enjoying the genetics part of this game (has always fascinated me), just a lot to get to grips with. Thanks for the link too, I'll have a look!