Breeding HGP?

[Modern Moon Stables]

Is there a good resource on breeding HGP? Is there a way to breed higher HGP than somewhere between the dam and sire? How do you gradually raise the HGP through your blood lines?

[Veterinarian]

Is there a good resource on breeding HGP? Is there a way to breed higher HGP than somewhere between the dam and sire? How do you gradually raise the HGP through your blood lines?

The best way to raise HGP is by injecting Arabian blood to your stock. Players have worked hard on raising the HGP on the Arabians and now high HGP arabians is the norm

If you want to personally produce a foal with better HGP well then it would be wise to know that the HGP is the genetic potential that you 'see' on the breeder's report meaning that in order to get a high HGP you need to have high stat comments on the Breeder's report.

Now in order to get a high comment you need to know how that comment is determined: for example the speed comment is determined by the horse's speed genes and the horse's speed conformation .

So in order to get high HGP you need high comments and in order to get high comments you need to have good genes and conformation.

Producing a horse with good genes is not an easy task. You might get an awful horse from good parents but you might get a great foal from awful parents as well. You need to find a mare and a stallion whose genes combine well together and in order to do that you must breed horses with horses to see which breeding pairs will produce youa horsew with better HGP.

Another extra thing that you should keep in mind is that high HGP does not guarantee you a good horse/ competitor. Meaning that you should not believe that after you get a horse with high HGP and train him that he will do well in comps. There are a lot of genes that determine whether a horse will be a good competitor or not. You can find stallions that look like the perfect horse for a specific discipline but actually never manage to win once and then we have foals with almost completely blank Breeder's report and low HGP that manage to break world records.

[Malakai10]

Is there a good resource on breeding HGP? Is there a way to breed higher HGP than somewhere between the dam and sire? How do you gradually raise the HGP through your blood lines?

The easiet way, of course, is to breed your horses to other horses that already have high HGP.

The long way is to have horses with COI below 70%. If you breed 36 mares, their COI is between 50-70% and their HGP is 60k and the stallion(s) you bred them to had an HGP of 63k, if every foal is a filly, you'll end up with maybe 8 fillies with an HGP of 57k-59k, 20 of 60k and 8 of 61k-63k. Colts tend to have a higher average HGP of 3k compared to fillies. If you get foals like this, delete/sell/spay all fillies of the lower 8 (the 57-59 range) and delete/sell/geld all colts that have an HGP lower than the upper 8 range.

If you have horses with an HGP of below 50%, you breed 36 mares, HGP 60k, stallion(s) HGP 63k, if every foal is a filly, you'll have 10 fillies 54-58k range, 16 in the 59-61k range and 10 in the 62-64k range. Colts will be about 3k higher. Choose the colts in the upper percentile and the fillies in the middle and upper percentile.

The near impossible way is to do what I previously mentioned but with a COI of over 70% - doable but when you start to get to 100% COI or over the horses are basically clones.

Have you ever seen a standard deviation graph? It's a bit like that.

(not my graph)
The blue is a COI of over 50%. You want fillies from the upper 50% and colts from the upper 55-60%.
The red is a COI of under 50%. You want fillies from the upper 50% and colts from the upper 65-70%.

[Malakai10]

Is there a good resource on breeding HGP? Is there a way to breed higher HGP than somewhere between the dam and sire? How do you gradually raise the HGP through your blood lines?

The best way to raise HGP is by injecting Arabian blood to your stock. Players have worked hard on raising the HGP on the Arabians and now high HGP arabians is the norm

If you want to personally produce a foal with better HGP well then it would be wise to know that the HGP is the genetic potential that you 'see' on the breeder's report meaning that in order to get a high HGP you need to have high stat comments on the Breeder's report.

Now in order to get a high comment you need to know how that comment is determined: for example the speed comment is determined by the horse's speed genes and the horse's speed conformation .

So in order to get high HGP you need high comments and in order to get high comments you need to have good genes and conformation.

Producing a horse with good genes is not an easy task. You might get an awful horse from good parents but you might get a great foal from awful parents as well. You need to find a mare and a stallion whose genes combine well together and in order to do that you must breed horses with horses to see which breeding pairs will produce youa horsew with better HGP.

Another extra thing that you should keep in mind is that high HGP does not guarantee you a good horse/ competitor. Meaning that you should not believe that after you get a high HGP horse and train him that he will do well in comps. There are a lot of genes that determine wether a horse will be a good competitor or not. You can find stallions that look like the perfect horse for a specific discipline but actually never manage to win once and then we have foals with almost completely blank Breeder's report and low HGP that manage to break world records.

From what I know, breeders comments aren't determined by conformation. The way I see see it is the the breeders comment evaluates the horse compared to how good they are at that stat for their conformation. E.g. a horse with a strength conformation of 10 having a gold strength comment is very strong... for the conformation they have. A horse with a strength of 60 but a red strength comment is very weak... for their conformation. That's why a good conformation stat won't bring up the strength score but a bad strength comment will make a good strength conformation obsolete.

[Veterinarian]

The best way to raise HGP is by injecting Arabian blood to your stock. Players have worked hard on raising the HGP on the Arabians and now high HGP arabians is the norm

If you want to personally produce a foal with better HGP well then it would be wise to know that the HGP is the genetic potential that you 'see' on the breeder's report meaning that in order to get a high HGP you need to have high stat comments on the Breeder's report.

Now in order to get a high comment you need to know how that comment is determined: for example the speed comment is determined by the horse's speed genes and the horse's speed conformation .

So in order to get high HGP you need high comments and in order to get high comments you need to have good genes and conformation.

Producing a horse with good genes is not an easy task. You might get an awful horse from good parents but you might get a great foal from awful parents as well. You need to find a mare and a stallion whose genes combine well together and in order to do that you must breed horses with horses to see which breeding pairs will produce youa horsew with better HGP.

Another extra thing that you should keep in mind is that high HGP does not guarantee you a good horse/ competitor. Meaning that you should not believe that after you get a high HGP horse and train him that he will do well in comps. There are a lot of genes that determine wether a horse will be a good competitor or not. You can find stallions that look like the perfect horse for a specific discipline but actually never manage to win once and then we have foals with almost completely blank Breeder's report and low HGP that manage to break world records.

From what I know, breeders comments aren't determined by conformation. The way I see see it is the the breeders comment evaluates the horse compared to how good they are at that stat for their conformation. E.g. a horse with a strength conformation of 10 having a gold strength comment is very strong... for the conformation they have. A horse with a strength of 60 but a red strength comment is very weak... for their conformation. That's why a good conformation stat won't bring up the strength score but a bad strength comment will make a good strength conformation obsolete.

I had read in one of larrisar's post that a comment equals to genes + conformation. Yes I believe that you are are giving an extra information here if a horse has a low conformation but a high comment it means that since a comment equals both genes and conformation that the horse has really strong genes and that they are the main reason as to why they have such a high comment

It can also be the other way around , you can find a horse with a really good conformation and a really good comment but not that great genes (which you will figure out when you compete him)

[Malakai10]

From what I know, breeders comments aren't determined by conformation. The way I see see it is the the breeders comment evaluates the horse compared to how good they are at that stat for their conformation. E.g. a horse with a strength conformation of 10 having a gold strength comment is very strong... for the conformation they have. A horse with a strength of 60 but a red strength comment is very weak... for their conformation. That's why a good conformation stat won't bring up the strength score but a bad strength comment will make a good strength conformation obsolete.

I had read in one of larrisar's post that a comment equals to genes + conformation. Yes I believe that you are are giving an extra information here if a horse has a low conformation but a high comment it means that since a comment equals both genes and conformation that the horse has really strong genes and that they are the main reason as to why they have such a high comment

It can also be the other way around , you can find a horse with a really good conformation and a really good comment but not that great genes (which you will figure out when you compete him)

I must have missed that post - I can't remember the post where I drew my conclusion fromt though. The actual way comments work also makes it either confusing or absolutely amazing as to how I can have horses with green/gold balance comments but a conformation of 6

[Veterinarian]

I had read in one of larrisar's post that a comment equals to genes + conformation. Yes I believe that you are are giving an extra information here if a horse has a low conformation but a high comment it means that since a comment equals both genes and conformation that the horse has really strong genes and that they are the main reason as to why they have such a high comment

It can also be the other way around , you can find a horse with a really good conformation and a really good comment but not that great genes (which you will figure out when you compete him)

I must have missed that post - I can't remember the post where I drew my conclusion fromt though. The actual way comments work also makes it either confusing or absolutely amazing as to how I can have horses with green/gold balance comments but a conformation of 6

I actually have an example of a 56 speed horse with a great heart gene and 01:59.09 minute score

I will also try to find larrisar's post, maybe it will help us out XD

[Malakai10]

I must have missed that post - I can't remember the post where I drew my conclusion fromt though. The actual way comments work also makes it either confusing or absolutely amazing as to how I can have horses with green/gold balance comments but a conformation of 6

I actually have an example of a 56 speed horse with a great heart gene and 01:59.09 minute score

I will also try to find larrisar's post, maybe it will help us out XD

That would be brilliant.

(I really hope we get gene testing someday - it would be nice to know with certainty the genes that cause everything and it would make guessing colours easier )

[Veterinarian]

I actually have an example of a 56 speed horse with a great heart gene and 01:59.09 minute score

I will also try to find larrisar's post, maybe it will help us out XD

That would be brilliant.

(I really hope we get gene testing someday - it would be nice to know with certainty the genes that cause everything and it would make guessing colours easier )

I found a topic! (not the one I wanted, I'll keep on searching :3 )

So gender does indeed affect a horse's performance

[Malakai10]

That would be brilliant.

(I really hope we get gene testing someday - it would be nice to know with certainty the genes that cause everything and it would make guessing colours easier )

I found a topic! (not the one I wanted, I'll keep on searching :3 )

So gender does indeed affect a horse's performance

I've definitely noticed that! I'll have mares and stallions that, untrained, get under 00:45 seconds for sprint racing. Trained, all but one of the stallions and none of the mares got a top speed under 00:40.