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Should I rehome them?

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I have gotten a few weird racehorses and I am unsure about rehoming them.

This one is by far the weirdest. In local shows he has given me a score of 01:59.04 minutes (in comps he has given me a 01:59.89 minute score) but his win percentage is absolutely awful!

I have another similar horse win and under 2 minute score (not as good as the one above) but a better win %, what about him then?

I always count the local show time as my horse's fastest time, so should I rehome them or keep then and breed him to my horses in hopes of getting a 01:58 minute stallion?

He has given me a score of 01:59.23 minutes in locals but from the first few comps that I have entered him in he seams to be doing poorly. Should I keep him for the same reason as above or not?
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Veterinarian wrote:I have gotten a few weird racehorses and I am unsure about rehoming them.

This one is by far the weirdest. In local shows he has given me a score of 01:59.04 minutes (in comps he has given me a 01:59.89 minute score) but his win percentage is absolutely awful!

I have another similar horse win and under 2 minute score (not as good as the one above) but a better win %, what about him then?

I always count the local show time as my horse's fastest time, so should I rehome them or keep then and breed him to my horses in hopes of getting a 01:58 minute stallion?

He has given me a score of 01:59.23 minutes in locals but from the first few comps that I have entered him in he seams to be doing poorly. Should I keep him for the same reason as above or not?
I would keep him (unless you don't want to ;) ) and breed him. His win % is most likely bad because the racing game is getting better by the day and other horses are probably beating him OR he is just not good in player made competitions
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Veterinarian wrote:I will have them if you don't want them! :lol:
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Veterinarian wrote:I have gotten a few weird racehorses and I am unsure about rehoming them.

This one is by far the weirdest. In local shows he has given me a score of 01:59.04 minutes (in comps he has given me a 01:59.89 minute score) but his win percentage is absolutely awful!

I have another similar horse win and under 2 minute score (not as good as the one above) but a better win %, what about him then?

I always count the local show time as my horse's fastest time, so should I rehome them or keep then and breed him to my horses in hopes of getting a 01:58 minute stallion?

He has given me a score of 01:59.23 minutes in locals but from the first few comps that I have entered him in he seams to be doing poorly. Should I keep him for the same reason as above or not?
If you don't want them I could totally buy them :lol:
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Veterinarian wrote:I have gotten a few weird racehorses and I am unsure about rehoming them.

This one is by far the weirdest. In local shows he has given me a score of 01:59.04 minutes (in comps he has given me a 01:59.89 minute score) but his win percentage is absolutely awful!

I have another similar horse win and under 2 minute score (not as good as the one above) but a better win %, what about him then?

I always count the local show time as my horse's fastest time, so should I rehome them or keep then and breed him to my horses in hopes of getting a 01:58 minute stallion?

He has given me a score of 01:59.23 minutes in locals but from the first few comps that I have entered him in he seams to be doing poorly. Should I keep him for the same reason as above or not?
I would try breeding them using mares with good win percentages and performance and see what happens from there. It seems that they might have the weak heart gene, which is very annoying to see in horses with such great local show scores.
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The last one has "a weak heart" so that's why he is not doing well. The other ones I would keep, and if not then I would give them to me! :lol: :lol:
Veterinarian wrote:I have gotten a few weird racehorses and I am unsure about rehoming them.

This one is by far the weirdest. In local shows he has given me a score of 01:59.04 minutes (in comps he has given me a 01:59.89 minute score) but his win percentage is absolutely awful!

I have another similar horse win and under 2 minute score (not as good as the one above) but a better win %, what about him then?

I always count the local show time as my horse's fastest time, so should I rehome them or keep then and breed him to my horses in hopes of getting a 01:58 minute stallion?

He has given me a score of 01:59.23 minutes in locals but from the first few comps that I have entered him in he seams to be doing poorly. Should I keep him for the same reason as above or not?
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ST0RM wrote:ping
Which horse are you talking about? :lol:
Thundermare wrote:weak heart gene
CBlueberry wrote:weak heart gene
Yep, figured XD I just got surprised because they truly are good racers they just don't seam to be able to pull firsts XD
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mlloftus wrote:buy them
CBlueberry wrote:buy them
They come from really private lines that I have worked really hard on :lol: If I were to sell them it would be for a really high price that I am sure not many players would be willing to pay. First of all both of them are the 2nd generations of my world record holders, meaning that the players that would buy them would have access to my world record lines.
Honestly, the only drawback about them is the heart gene lol (I have horses with worse speed confo ,56, that run 01:59.09 mins so I really do not care about the speed confo)

A 01:59 minute stallion's foal is worth around 5 million let alone a horse's that has almost gone below 01:59 mins. Many players will rightfully be skeptical about paying a high price for them because there is only the proof of written words that they have actually given these results in locals.

I know that these stallions with the right mare (that has a good heart gene) will give amazing foals, I just do not have the time to breed them to my horses and work on that heart gene especially when I have other better horses that I can work on.

"I know that these stallions with the right mare (that has a good heart gene) will give amazing foals" this alone holds me back from selling them, because they would give good foals with the right mare and they would actually be sold for far less.

So again it will be really hard for me to sell them because I want to sell them for a high price. The weak heart gene really lowers the price that they would have been sold for. I am probably going to put them up for offers and see what I get though I am 99% sure that I won't sell them due to the offers being lower than what I want them to be :lol:
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Keep, even if they look like flops they are not!
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Veterinarian wrote:
ST0RM wrote:ping
Which horse are you talking about? :lol:
Thundermare wrote:weak heart gene
CBlueberry wrote:weak heart gene
Yep, figured XD I just got surprised because they truly are good racers they just don't seam to be able to pull firsts XD
CRUNCHY IS THE BEST wrote:buy them
mlloftus wrote:buy them
CBlueberry wrote:buy them
They come from really private lines that I have worked really hard on :lol: If I were to sell them it would be for a really high price that I am sure not many players would be willing to pay. First of all both of them are the 2nd generations of my world record holders, meaning that the players that would buy them would have access to my world record lines.
Honestly, the only drawback about them is the heart gene lol (I have horses with worse speed confo ,56, that run 01:59.09 mins so I really do not care about the speed confo)

A 01:59 minute stallion's foal is worth around 5 million let alone a horse's that has almost gone below 01:59 mins. Many players will rightfully be skeptical about paying a high price for them because there is only the proof of written words that they have actually given these results in locals.

I know that these stallions with the right mare (that has a good heart gene) will give amazing foals, I just do not have the time to breed them to my horses and work on that heart gene especially when I have other better horses that I can work on.

"I know that these stallions with the right mare (that has a good heart gene) will give amazing foals" this alone holds me back from selling them, because they would give good foals with the right mare and they would actually be sold for far less.

So again it will be really hard for me to sell them because I want to sell them for a high price. The weak heart gene really lowers the price that they would have been sold for. I am probably going to put them up for offers and see what I get though I am 99% sure that I won't sell them due to the offers being lower than what I want them to be :lol:
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Re: Should I rehome them?

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Veterinarian wrote:...:
I suggest you consider what each one separately might offer for your breeding program.
Such questions to ask yourself would be:

Can I duplicate the pair?
If you can, then see if they pop a similar one or a worse one or a better one. That should help to determine if you want to try the match again.

If I cannot duplicate the pair, what does this particular cross offer that I might not be able to line-breed a similar horse elsewhere?
In this case, it's more of the ability to create a similar one, then to duplicate the same cross.

Do I have better examples of heart foals from this mare or this stallion?
In this case, especially if you do, then there may be no reason to keep these horses, because they would be offering perhaps the weakest genes that the mare or also the stallion has to impart.

Is each one of these horses really worth keeping?
You're already struggling a bit with this question. When I struggle with such a question, I usually put them on a breeding-restricted line, where I breed them to a specifically picked match until I get just one acceptable foal. In this way, you will limit the poor genes being brought back into your herd. For a horse you think you want to keep, but can't quite excuse what you see, then this option is sometimes the best option. It does only limited damage to your line but allows you to keep intact what the horse might still offer.

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I would suggest, in this last scenario, you choose a mare that has a solid WPS, even if she has poor scores or poor BR, HGP. You'll backtrack a little on the lineage with the cross, but you'll also likely save the good parts of the stallions while mixing it up with potential better or stronger heart genes from the mare. Cull hard and the highest HGP isn't always the 'perfect' foal to keep. Sometimes keeping the average HGP between the two is the better option, especially if the balancing of the other areas is better.

I hope that helps a bit.
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