Help?

[Soaring Hooves]

mlloftus, once I bred Glass with her sire and got him.

Second foal https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2460746

Any chance you know what color the second foal is? And also, what the best way to get a Silver smokey brown horse?

[Mlloftus]

mlloftus, once I bred Glass with her sire and got him.

Any chance you know what color the second foal is? And also, what the best way to get a Silver smokey brown horse?

I tried that, but got him

[Soaring Hooves]

Hmm... yeah, I dunno Just breed horses that look like her parents again

mlloftus, once I bred Glass with her sire and got him.

I tried that, but got him

[Soaring Hooves]

Or you can breed the parents again!

Hmm... yeah, I dunno Just breed horses that look like her parents again

I tried that, but got him

[Soaring Hooves]

Also, why'd you breed her to a random stallion that was a crossbreed?

Or you can breed the parents again!

Hmm... yeah, I dunno Just breed horses that look like her parents again

[Mlloftus]

Also, why'd you breed her to a random stallion that was a crossbreed?

Or you can breed the parents again!

He was the same color.

[Soaring Hooves]

Oh, yeah. That's not gonna work, sry

Also, why'd you breed her to a random stallion that was a crossbreed?

He was the same color.

[Mlloftus]

Oh, yeah. That's not gonna work, sry

He was the same color.

Yeah... the color looked close though!

[Veterinarian]

Second foal https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2460746

Any chance you know what color the second foal is? And also, what the best way to get a Silver smokey brown horse?

The second foal is a brown (too young to say for sure) with stockings.

A silver Smocky brown horse is a brown horse with the silver gene and one copy of the cream gene.

A brown horse is actually a Chestnut or a black horse with the agouti gene.
Now the agouti gene is also responsible for bays but you shouldn't use a bay in order to get a silver Smocky brown
The genotype of the agouti for bay horses is A/? (A/a, a/A, A/A) while for brown horses, it is actually a mutation of the agouti gene, (it is At/? (At/at, at/At, At/At).

The best way to begin your project is by using a brown Cream ( two copies of the cream gene, can pass 1 copy of it if it is bred to a horse with no cream gene, on brown) horse and a silver brown (just a brown horse with the silver gene).

If the agouti gene and the silver gene is dominant (At/At, on at least one of them ) (Z/Z, on the Silver Brown) then you will 100% get a silver Smocky brown horse.

The difficult part is to get access to a brown horse, especially if you want to breed this colour to a specific breed.

So what you are probably going to do, since I can guarantee you that there are no brown creams out there, is that you will need to get access to a brown horse which will most commonly be just brown but if you are lucky it will have the cream gene and maybe the silver gene.

if you get access to a brown horse then what you need to do is :
Find a horse with the silver gene (that is NOT bay) *

Keep trying to get a silver brown horse.

If the brown horse you have is an At/at then you will have a 25% chance of the horse being brown but if you have an At/At you will have a 100% chance of the horse being brown but keep in mind that the foal will be an At/at in both cases.

*The horse you use should be one of these colours:
Silver Smocky black or silver Smocky cream

You may find more silvers out there that have the Champagne gene but it would be wise to stick to a horse with fewer genes since in the future you will need to get rid of the Champagne gene.

I will try to find a few Thoroughbreds that will work and other breeds as well for you.

Also something that you need to not know is that when you breed to silver Smocky browns you will not get a 100% chance of a silver smocky brown but you will get the following (C/C, C/c, c/C, c/c) which means a 50% chance of the foals being a silver Smocky brown. And a 25% chance of the foal being a silver Smocky cream and a 25% chance of the horse being a Smocky brown but that is try IF both of the brown and silver genes are Dominant.

If they are not then the percentages are still true about the cream gene but you will also have a 25% chance of your horse not being a brown and/or not carrying the silver gene.

[Veterinarian]

Also, why'd you breed her to a random stallion that was a crossbreed?

Or you can breed the parents again!

The sire of the horse is a Cremello (he is a Chestnut with 2 copies of the cream gene) and the mare is exactly what you are looking for a silver Smocky cream.

I can guarantee you that exactly because you got that horse the mare is an At/at, not dominant to the brown gene, which means that you only have a 25% chance of the foal inheriting the brown gene.

I can also say with certainty that the mare is a Z/z, not dominant to the silver gene, which again means that you have a 25% chance of the foal inheriting the silver gene.

If you keep trying you will probably get the horse you want but it will be really difficult to do so.

Here are all of the colours that you can get by breeding them: (At/at, Z/z, Cr/cr to at/at, z/z, Cr/Cr )
- Smocky brown
- Brown cream
- silver Smocky brown
- silver brown cream
- palomino (what you got)
- cremello (like the sire)

The most difficult to get will be the all of the browns and way more difficult with the silver browns gene and way more difficult with the silver brown with the cream gene.

These are the percentages

9.375% smocky brown
3.125% silver smocky brown
9.375% brown cream
3.125% silver brown cream
37.5% palomino
37.5% cremello