How does this work???

[BlackOak2]

Both of your parents carry a single cream gene (the dame's foal picture is actually the silver-black phase instead of the red-black phase of a regular black horse). Your young colt, I think, will likely end up being a perlino, two creams on a buckskin.

Cute boy though.

Just wanted to say that to avoid confusion it's probably best not to refer to a smoky black foal coat as silver-black. I usually describe as being bluish black versus reddish black.

Noted... maybe I'll remember for next time. At least I didn't call it grayish-black, which was my other option.

[Showtym]

Haha I have nieces and nephews and when they get to that stage you can't go ANYWHERE without them or they cry

My nephew is 4 years old and throwing tantrums and being really stubborn and the same with my 2 year old niece but my niece is still very cute. I think once they hit the throw tantrums and be stubborn stage is when they start being a bit less cute

Exactly

[Showtym]

Look at this foals parents, how did he come out white????
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2354393

Both of your parents carry a single cream gene (the dame's foal picture is actually the silver-black phase instead of the red-black phase of a regular black horse). Your young colt, I think, will likely end up being a perlino, two creams on a buckskin.

Cute boy though.

What about this one?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2394480

[BlackOak2]

Both of your parents carry a single cream gene (the dame's foal picture is actually the silver-black phase instead of the red-black phase of a regular black horse). Your young colt, I think, will likely end up being a perlino, two creams on a buckskin.

Cute boy though.

What about this one?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2394480

Red dun, with tiger eye and tobiano stocking.
No cream passed from the dame.

[Showtym]

What about this one?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2394480

Red dun, with tiger eye and tobiano stocking.
No cream passed from the dame.

Thanks

[Showtym]

What about this one?
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2394480

Red dun, with tiger eye and tobiano stocking.
No cream passed from the dame.

This is a bit confusing but this guy here https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2362615
He and his sire are giving off all black foals, but Bobbin, his sires sire doesn't have any black foals. I have studded from all three. But the funny thing is is that none of them are black themselves.

[BlackOak2]

Red dun, with tiger eye and tobiano stocking.
No cream passed from the dame.

This is a bit confusing but this guy here https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2362615
He and his sire are giving off all black foals, but Bobbin, his sires sire doesn't have any black foals. I have studded from all three. But the funny thing is is that none of them are black themselves.

Black happens under two cases.
When it's homozygous for black extension: EE
Or when it's hetrozygous for black extension: Ee
This is assuming that there is no agouti (wild bay, bay, brown)

Here's a few basic rules to keep in mind:
Two reds can NEVER throw a black (in this case they're homozygous for missing extension: ee).
Two agouti's CAN throw a black.
Two blacks CANNOT ever throw an agouti, but CAN throw a red.
A black paired with an agouti can throw either a black, an agouti or a red.

Okay, now for Gusty Wildfire.
He's a brown (with tobiano but that's pretty obvious without any training ). He also carries silver, though it's a bit more difficult to see because much of his mane and tail are white from the tobiano.
For him to throw black foals, like Lynx, it does mean that Gusty is either homozygous OR hetrozygous for extension, so either EE or Ee. Agouti, the brown, works on top of the extension (the black) to display.
So far, I can fairly confidently say that he's either EE or Ee with agouti of Ata. Which means he only has one agouti gene and that single gene is brown. As a side note, since he's produced offspring without silver, he also only has one silver gene.
His dame, First Phoenix, comes from a black sire and a red mare. So we know that she has an Ee extension for black. She can throw red foals.
His sire passed to him his single agouti brown and appears to be of similar gene as Gusty Wildfire: EE or Ee with Ata.
Now as for Bobbin. Bobbin is a silver on black with roaning. We know these genes exist this way because he has prominent dappling and we can also see the roaning (the white hairs) on his coat. So this immediately makes him an EE or an Ee with no agouti. And his sire DOES have black foals, but they're paired also with silver, making for silver dapples, like MAIN MARIA. It does appear he might have been homozygous for silver (ZZ) though I didn't check every one of his foals. But that means every one of his foals would be silver with whatever color the mare offered as well. I do also see one buckskin and since the mare wasn't a cream carrier, Bobbin is also a single cream carrier.

Does that make sense?

[Showtym]

This is a bit confusing but this guy here https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2362615
He and his sire are giving off all black foals, but Bobbin, his sires sire doesn't have any black foals. I have studded from all three. But the funny thing is is that none of them are black themselves.

Black happens under two cases.
When it's homozygous for black extension: EE
Or when it's hetrozygous for black extension: Ee
This is assuming that there is no agouti (wild bay, bay, brown)

Here's a few basic rules to keep in mind:
Two reds can NEVER throw a black (in this case they're homozygous for missing extension: ee).
Two agouti's CAN throw a black.
Two blacks CANNOT ever throw an agouti, but CAN throw a red.
A black paired with an agouti can throw either a black, an agouti or a red.

Okay, now for Gusty Wildfire.
He's a brown (with tobiano but that's pretty obvious without any training ). He also carries silver, though it's a bit more difficult to see because much of his mane and tail are white from the tobiano.
For him to throw black foals, like Lynx, it does mean that Gusty is either homozygous OR hetrozygous for extension, so either EE or Ee. Agouti, the brown, works on top of the extension (the black) to display.
So far, I can fairly confidently say that he's either EE or Ee with agouti of Ata. Which means he only has one agouti gene and that single gene is brown. As a side note, since he's produced offspring without silver, he also only has one silver gene.
His dame, First Phoenix, comes from a black sire and a red mare. So we know that she has an Ee extension for black. She can throw red foals.
His sire passed to him his single agouti brown and appears to be of similar gene as Gusty Wildfire: EE or Ee with Ata.
Now as for Bobbin. Bobbin is a silver on black with roaning. We know these genes exist this way because he has prominent dappling and we can also see the roaning (the white hairs) on his coat. So this immediately makes him an EE or an Ee with no agouti. And his sire DOES have black foals, but they're paired also with silver, making for silver dapples, like MAIN MARIA. It does appear he might have been homozygous for silver (ZZ) though I didn't check every one of his foals. But that means every one of his foals would be silver with whatever color the mare offered as well. I do also see one buckskin and since the mare wasn't a cream carrier, Bobbin is also a single cream carrier.

Does that make sense?

Yup it does. We have just had a grueling test on genes so I do understand I can see why you didn't go through all Bobbins' foals he's got 24 of them. He was a good stud

[BlackOak2]

Yup it does. We have just had a grueling test on genes so I do understand I can see why you didn't go through all Bobbins' foals he's got 24 of them. He was a good stud

If you fully understood all of that, you might want to take the fresh-in-mind chance to swing by our color forum and re-look at those guides. Many of them also have the gene write-up. You could theoretically boost your color gene understanding on the game.
Thus you will also then understand when somebody writes a color coding like:
Ee aa Dd ZZ Crpr Chn Lpn TgTg

[Mlloftus]

Look at this foals parents, how did he come out white????
https://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2354393

I would actually love to buy him (Or another horse like him)