Need help with two Mares

[Alana]

I believe them to be chanpagne of some sort but have little clue as to the correct name for their colouring.
First out is this lass whom I believe to be some sort of Combination of Champagne and Cream, or am I totally in the dark here?
Brisa de Verano

Second is her daughter whom has me totally baffled, what is it with the dark mane/tail, and is the belly lighter or is it my eyes that decieves me?
Diosa de la Primavera


any and all help is much appreciated

[GlacierLake]

Brisa de Verano is ... Cremello Champagne Metallic
Diosa de la Primavera is .... Sable Champagne Metallic

[Aela]

None of them are Metallic, they get that shine from being trained.

Second mare is Sable Champagne Dun

[Alana]

First mare can not be Cremello, her dam is Chestnut so no double cream possibility, second mare has the first mare as her dam and a Buckskin sire, thus the confusion.
Going to look up Sable champagne dun now

[Aela]

Completely forgot about the first mare!

I believe she's Silver Amber Cream Champagne

[gator vocals]

I think that the first mare is a cream champagne rather than a silver amber, her father looks like a cream champagne too as a foal though I don't know what his adult coat looks like cx and her eyes were blue as a foal indicating she was a chestnut + cream, cream on bay and black horses aren't born blue eyed.

Second I agree could be a sable champagne dun, maybe sable cream champagne dun? her father carried the seal brown gene because his father was a smoky seal brown c:

[Aela]

Yeah, changing my statement.

Looked at her foal pictures, and I acutally think Gold Cream Champagne instead. Father looked a lot like my Amber Cream foals

[nyraeia]

Second I agree could be a sable champagne dun, maybe sable cream champagne dun? her father carried the seal brown gene because his father was a smoky seal brown c:

Yes, I think Sable Cream Dun.
I also agree with Aela on the first mare being Gold Cream.

[Alana]

Thank you so much for the help, would not have been able to figure this one out myself for sure