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Each breed may have only one topic. The first post in the topic is to be informative. It should help explain the breed, and breeding goals; advice on how to select mares and stallions; and links to ideal Stallions available for breeding.
Keeping a directory of breeders working on the same goal is also helpful.
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Each breed may have only one topic. The first post in the topic is to be informative. It should help explain the breed, and breeding goals; advice on how to select mares and stallions; and links to ideal Stallions available for breeding.
Keeping a directory of breeders working on the same goal is also helpful.
All new threads must be approved.
Selle Francais
I'm hoping to specialize with Selle Francais horses, but I just joined (literally two seconds ago), and in reading on the How-Tos and through this forum, I couldn't find a thread dedicated to them.
Basically...
The Selle Français (SF) is a breed of sport horse from France. It is renowned primarily for its success in show jumping, but many have also been successful in dressage and eventing. An athletic horse with good gaits, it is usually bay or chestnut in color. The Selle Français was created in 1958 when several French riding horse breeds were merged into one stud book. The new breed was meant to serve as a unified sport horse during a period when horses were being replaced by mechanization and were transforming into an animal used mainly for sport and leisure.
Breed Standards...
Because of the diversity of the breeds that contributed to the Selle Français, there are not set breed standards. It can range from 15.1 to 17.3 hands (61 to 71 inches, 155 to 180 cm), although, because they are used as sport horses, most Selle Français usually stand a relatively tall 16.1 to 16.3 hands (65 to 67 inches, 165 to 170 cm). It is an athletic horse with balanced, harmonious and powerful gaits. Some morphological traits remain the same throughout the breed. The forehead is broad, and the facial profile is straight or convex. The neck is strong and rather long, well connected to the withers, and the back straight. The croup is elongated, muscular and slightly oblique, and the powerful hindquarters are an asset in show jumping. The chest is deep, and the shoulders long and sloping. The legs are strong and muscular with wide joints and hard hooves.
The Selle Français is generally bay or chestnut in color, the latter being a legacy of its origins in the Anglo-Norman breed. Gray is much less common, with its origins in the Thoroughbred and Anglo-Arabian horses that contributed to the breed. White markings, such as white on the lower legs, are fairly common within the breed, and are again inherited from its Norman ancestors. The temperament of the Selle Français is highly variable from one horse to another. This is due to the selection criteria for breeding stock, which since the beginning of the breed have been based on physical ability. In recent years, however, the ANSF and breeders have been working to create selection criteria that focus on temperament. The vast majority of Selle Français have good temperaments, quiet but energetic, patient and friendly. The breed is reputed to be intelligent and quick to learn.
Information pulled from Wikipedia - find more there!
Breeding Order...
I have no idea! More research for me.
Basically...
The Selle Français (SF) is a breed of sport horse from France. It is renowned primarily for its success in show jumping, but many have also been successful in dressage and eventing. An athletic horse with good gaits, it is usually bay or chestnut in color. The Selle Français was created in 1958 when several French riding horse breeds were merged into one stud book. The new breed was meant to serve as a unified sport horse during a period when horses were being replaced by mechanization and were transforming into an animal used mainly for sport and leisure.
Breed Standards...
Because of the diversity of the breeds that contributed to the Selle Français, there are not set breed standards. It can range from 15.1 to 17.3 hands (61 to 71 inches, 155 to 180 cm), although, because they are used as sport horses, most Selle Français usually stand a relatively tall 16.1 to 16.3 hands (65 to 67 inches, 165 to 170 cm). It is an athletic horse with balanced, harmonious and powerful gaits. Some morphological traits remain the same throughout the breed. The forehead is broad, and the facial profile is straight or convex. The neck is strong and rather long, well connected to the withers, and the back straight. The croup is elongated, muscular and slightly oblique, and the powerful hindquarters are an asset in show jumping. The chest is deep, and the shoulders long and sloping. The legs are strong and muscular with wide joints and hard hooves.
The Selle Français is generally bay or chestnut in color, the latter being a legacy of its origins in the Anglo-Norman breed. Gray is much less common, with its origins in the Thoroughbred and Anglo-Arabian horses that contributed to the breed. White markings, such as white on the lower legs, are fairly common within the breed, and are again inherited from its Norman ancestors. The temperament of the Selle Français is highly variable from one horse to another. This is due to the selection criteria for breeding stock, which since the beginning of the breed have been based on physical ability. In recent years, however, the ANSF and breeders have been working to create selection criteria that focus on temperament. The vast majority of Selle Français have good temperaments, quiet but energetic, patient and friendly. The breed is reputed to be intelligent and quick to learn.
Information pulled from Wikipedia - find more there!
Breeding Order...
I have no idea! More research for me.
Re: Selle Francais
Hey there! I'm actually doing a bit of Selle Francais breeding in order to produce Belgian Warmbloods. I have the family tree for them here http://familyecho.com/?p=PILOM&c=8ogau2 ... 4168573142 (just click the Selle Francais box and it'll focus on that breed) Just let me know if you need anything. ^^
Re: Selle Francais
Oh thats fabulous! Thank you!
Re: Selle Francais
Hi there! I'm also hoping to breed a few Selle Francais, the 'recipe' if you like, goes as follows:
Selle Francais = [ Norman Cob x French Anglo-Arab ] x [ Norfolk Trotter x Thoroughbred ]
Norman Cob = [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] All Ancient Breeds
French Anglo-Arab =[ Navarrin Horse x Limousin ] x [ Arabian x Thoroughbred ] Arabian is an Ancient Breed
Navarrin Horse = Anglo-Arabian x West African Barb
Anglo-Arabian = Thoroughbred x [ Arabian x Thoroughbred ] All Ancient Breeds
West African Barb = [ Arabian x North African Barb ] x [ North African Barb x Forest Horse ] All Ancient Breeds
Limousin = Anglo-Arabian x Boulonnais
Boulonnais = Spanish Barb x [ Arabian x Forest Horse ] Arabian and Forest Horse are Ancient Breeds
Spanish Barb = [ Spanish Jennet x West African Barb ] x [ Andalusian x West African Barb ] See Above for West African Barb
Spannish Jennet = North African Barb x [ Arabian x Sorraia ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds
Sorraia = [ Tarpan x Mongolian ] x [ Tarpan x West African Barb ] Tarpan is an Ancient breed, See Above for West African Barb
Mongolian = Tarpan x [ Przewalski Horse x Tarpan ] All Ancient Breeds
Thoroughbred = [ Arabian x North African Barb ] x [ Akhal-Teke x Galloway ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds
Akhal Teke = Arabian x Turkmene Both Ancient Breeds
Galloway = Exmoor Pony x [ Exmoor Pony x Friesian ]
Exmoor Pony = Przewalski Horse x Tarpan Both Ancient Breeds
Friesian = Forest Horse x [ Arabian x Andalusian ] Forest Horse and Arabian are Ancient Breeds
Andalusian = [ Sorraia x Carthusian ] x [ Sorraia x West African Barb ] See Above for Sorraia and West African Barb
Carthusian = West African Barb x Sorraia See Above for Both
Norfolk Trotter = [ Thoroughbred x Cleveland Bay ] x Cleveland Bay See Above for Thoroughbred
Cleveland Bay = Thoroughbred x [ Arabian x North African Barb ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds, See Above for Thoroughbred
I'm sorry its so lengthy but that's just the way it is I guess! If it's any help and people are happy to buy their own horses further down the line rather than start from the Ancient Breeds, it is currently possible to buy all components of a Selle Francais except French Anglo-Arabs. So the most important recipe is for this breed.
I've made some headway and managed to breed a Limousin, Navarrins are next on the list!
Selle Francais = [ Norman Cob x French Anglo-Arab ] x [ Norfolk Trotter x Thoroughbred ]
Norman Cob = [ Tarpan x Belgian ] x [ Forest Horse x Belgian ] All Ancient Breeds
French Anglo-Arab =[ Navarrin Horse x Limousin ] x [ Arabian x Thoroughbred ] Arabian is an Ancient Breed
Navarrin Horse = Anglo-Arabian x West African Barb
Anglo-Arabian = Thoroughbred x [ Arabian x Thoroughbred ] All Ancient Breeds
West African Barb = [ Arabian x North African Barb ] x [ North African Barb x Forest Horse ] All Ancient Breeds
Limousin = Anglo-Arabian x Boulonnais
Boulonnais = Spanish Barb x [ Arabian x Forest Horse ] Arabian and Forest Horse are Ancient Breeds
Spanish Barb = [ Spanish Jennet x West African Barb ] x [ Andalusian x West African Barb ] See Above for West African Barb
Spannish Jennet = North African Barb x [ Arabian x Sorraia ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds
Sorraia = [ Tarpan x Mongolian ] x [ Tarpan x West African Barb ] Tarpan is an Ancient breed, See Above for West African Barb
Mongolian = Tarpan x [ Przewalski Horse x Tarpan ] All Ancient Breeds
Thoroughbred = [ Arabian x North African Barb ] x [ Akhal-Teke x Galloway ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds
Akhal Teke = Arabian x Turkmene Both Ancient Breeds
Galloway = Exmoor Pony x [ Exmoor Pony x Friesian ]
Exmoor Pony = Przewalski Horse x Tarpan Both Ancient Breeds
Friesian = Forest Horse x [ Arabian x Andalusian ] Forest Horse and Arabian are Ancient Breeds
Andalusian = [ Sorraia x Carthusian ] x [ Sorraia x West African Barb ] See Above for Sorraia and West African Barb
Carthusian = West African Barb x Sorraia See Above for Both
Norfolk Trotter = [ Thoroughbred x Cleveland Bay ] x Cleveland Bay See Above for Thoroughbred
Cleveland Bay = Thoroughbred x [ Arabian x North African Barb ] Arabian and North African Barb are Ancient Breeds, See Above for Thoroughbred
I'm sorry its so lengthy but that's just the way it is I guess! If it's any help and people are happy to buy their own horses further down the line rather than start from the Ancient Breeds, it is currently possible to buy all components of a Selle Francais except French Anglo-Arabs. So the most important recipe is for this breed.
I've made some headway and managed to breed a Limousin, Navarrins are next on the list!
Re: Selle Francais
Hi again! I was just wondering if this thread is still active and this is something you are still pursuing, if not I'd be really interested in getting it kickstarted again? Do let me know 
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Last edited by Weaving on Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Selle Francais
You may want to quote the original poster as they may not check the forum but it will pop up in their notifications.Weaving wrote:Hi again! I was just wondering if this thread is still active and this is something you are still pursuing, if not I'd be really interested in getting it kickstarted again? Do let me know