How protective are you of Your lines?

[RoyalCrownAcres]

I, personally, do not like to sell a lot of my horses. When I bred Arabians I was selling horses left and right, but I feel like that was because pretty much every player starts out doing that now and there aren’t really any “exclusive lines”. My gypsy Vanners on the other hand, I am very protective of. I’ve only sold maybe 5 or 6 horses out of the 100 or so I’ve bred and that’s because they were so wildly out of my standards it was embarrassing I don’t really want players getting ahold of my horses and not having the same goals as me if that makes sense. Is anyone else like this. And how is it for you. I know some players jump straight to rehoming if a foal doesn’t match expectations so players can’t use their lines. But I know others that don’t care

[Katy_Kanes]

I'm similar to you. I will occasionally put a horse up for stud, but that's all. If my COI is getting too high, I'll use a stud or buy a new mare. That's really the extent. I'm currently working on getting the HGP up and the COI down, so I recently bought 2 new horses.

My lines aren't open to the public, unless the horse is completely wack (reds, HGP under 30,000, COI over 100%, etc) then I sell them after breeding them once or I put them up for stud. I NEVER ReHome, and if I'm going to sell, I breed them with a cross to get a grade horse and train the grade. I want to be able to keep track of all of the horses I've breed.


Sidenote- What do you think of a horse with 1 red, 1 green, and 1 gold?

[RoyalCrownAcres]

I'm similar to you. I will occasionally put a horse up for stud, but that's all. If my COI is getting too high, I'll use a stud or buy a new mare. That's really the extent. I'm currently working on getting the HGP up and the COI down, so I recently bought 2 new horses.

My lines aren't open to the public, unless the horse is completely wack (reds, HGP under 30,000, COI over 100%, etc) then I sell them after breeding them once or I put them up for stud. I NEVER ReHome, and if I'm going to sell, I breed them with a cross to get a grade horse and train the grade. I want to be able to keep track of all of the horses I've breed.


Sidenote- What do you think of a horse with 1 red, 1 green, and 1 gold?

Unless they have EVERYTHING else I’m looking for, I do NOT accept red stats. I’ve only bred 3 Gypsy’s with red stats and 1 of them I kept. I don’t really breed for green or gold stats, but the more the merrier, right?

[Raikit]

I am extremely protective of my purebred and stat lines. Having worked as hard as I have for the breeds, and then continuing that work to improve those breeds in specific areas, I am loathe to let that work go to others regardless of price. I also am not at all likely to bring outside horses into these lines. If anything other than something I bred myself is used it's going to be an AC horse. (As a side note, the value of the work I put in can be seen in a lot of horses of HWO. I was the first to create the Vladimir Heavy Draft breed, and every horse I've found of breeds with VHDs in their pedigree (New Kirgiz, Budyonny, and Kushum) can trace its lineage back to my boy, Stopwatch.)

Other lines I am less protective of. Color lines often get sold or put up for stud. These are also lines of which I am much more likely to bring in outside horses.

[Hazel!]

Not in the least.

Mostly for the reason that I want my breed to become more popular! I want there to be cheap studs on the market for people to use. Culls that aren't right for my breeding program get priced to sell. Once I hit my goals, I plan to try and get my lines out. I want people to buy and breed my horses, and spread the love.

For me it's no fun going at a project alone, and I've made a few connections with people who also work with ASBs. I hope that my work will be able to help others out. :D

[BlackOak2]

It depends on the project I'm running.
Recipe Quests, I'll sell if there's a market (currently for rares).
Low GP project is exclusive, but only because I want to keep a very tight hold on the genes coming and going from it. It's helping me keep track of how the stats are moving, so having it closed is the right option for me at this point.
Leopard tarpans is also exclusive and very closed. Although I did put up for public the first black-based (bay) leopard extension up the neck. That being said, I did not use him for my own line, I actually developed the official second black-based (bay again) leopard extension up the neck that I used for my own line, just to keep the bloodline completely private. I have also sold a few very exclusive foals to a couple on HWO, but again, Very Few and those that weren't actually used in my own breeding shed.
My competition line, however is vastly different. I'll purchase out-bred horses for use and injection into my line, I'll use a public stud and I'll even sell certain individuals to newbies or others that are looking for a grinder or a competition, head-started bloodline.

I have numerous other projects waiting in the wings as well. Some will be open to the public, when they're ready, like the Heavy Arabian project, that's already open to certain public uses, and some won't be open to the public until the project reaches maturity, like my leopard tarpan project... it's a far way off still.

As for rehoming, I won't take the time to list a horse that may or may not sell in quick fashion. So for those projects that may be public-availability, I'd rather rehome and save the space then take the time to list, put an ad in my sales forum, take turns, watch it age, apply notes, color, gallery images and maybe... eventually... somebody might purchase. I don't train regularly, so such horses have little to no use if they don't pass my project's breeding requirements.

Now... for the one green, one gold, one red horses... it depends on why the red is red and if the green and gold are worthwhile or acceptable and of course, where the other stats fall. A red movement stat, for instance, in a racing horse is meaningless. or a red stat when the conf score in that same area is bottom-barrel is again, just offering knowledge that you can't get any worse, so the red stat is just showing that it's bottom-barrel (only way to go is up). Consideration should be taken into account to the horse and if the red stat matters, not necessarily 'no red on any horse' especially if the breeder is still breeding for the base-foundation bloodline before vast improvement starts to take hold. What do I mean by this? What I mean is, the horses with a long line of good stats in their pedigree shouldn't offer a bad stat, because the line is already stabilized and 'improved upon'. However, if that pedigree is much shorter, then seeing a red stat is potentially more acceptable, all because you're still improving the line.

[Elaina Brewster]

I'm one of those who regularly re home foals, often times keeping only one or two (sometimes none) from a mare. My lines are fairly exclusive (most are heavily line bred to fix traits), but I do work with a few other breeders on occasion. I will sometimes stud to a public stud. I will offer some of my oddities/colors for stud if someone asks politely, prove a good need and can follow my rules.

I will occasionally, breed out a breed and sell to the public if it suits me...like when TOB was added, I did breed out a few paint lines for the general public. I did keep one or two for my own uses (got to start somewhere), but most were placed up for sale.

Red stats, yep I do keep those if the other stats line up for the horses intended use (again, got to start somewhere).

[Ladybug JR]

I, personally, do not like to sell a lot of my horses. When I bred Arabians I was selling horses left and right, but I feel like that was because pretty much every player starts out doing that now and there aren’t really any “exclusive lines”. My gypsy Vanners on the other hand, I am very protective of. I’ve only sold maybe 5 or 6 horses out of the 100 or so I’ve bred and that’s because they were so wildly out of my standards it was embarrassing I don’t really want players getting ahold of my horses and not having the same goals as me if that makes sense. Is anyone else like this. And how is it for you. I know some players jump straight to rehoming if a foal doesn’t match expectations so players can’t use their lines. But I know others that don’t care

I am similar with my rare horse lines, I only sell males, if I don’t like the females, too bad. This is mostly for my albino and French trotters, so I’ll easily sell off any others. I want to get a line for every single breed. Some I’ll easily sell, others not so much

[PeacefulOreo]

I, personally, do not like to sell a lot of my horses. When I bred Arabians I was selling horses left and right, but I feel like that was because pretty much every player starts out doing that now and there aren’t really any “exclusive lines”. My gypsy Vanners on the other hand, I am very protective of. I’ve only sold maybe 5 or 6 horses out of the 100 or so I’ve bred and that’s because they were so wildly out of my standards it was embarrassing I don’t really want players getting ahold of my horses and not having the same goals as me if that makes sense. Is anyone else like this. And how is it for you. I know some players jump straight to rehoming if a foal doesn’t match expectations so players can’t use their lines. But I know others that don’t care

I'm usually really protective of my best Thoroughbred lines. If I stud them out, I usually only let members of The United Racing Thoroughbred Breeders Club use them.

[_Raven_]

I, personally, do not like to sell a lot of my horses. When I bred Arabians I was selling horses left and right, but I feel like that was because pretty much every player starts out doing that now and there aren’t really any “exclusive lines”. My gypsy Vanners on the other hand, I am very protective of. I’ve only sold maybe 5 or 6 horses out of the 100 or so I’ve bred and that’s because they were so wildly out of my standards it was embarrassing I don’t really want players getting ahold of my horses and not having the same goals as me if that makes sense. Is anyone else like this. And how is it for you. I know some players jump straight to rehoming if a foal doesn’t match expectations so players can’t use their lines. But I know others that don’t care

I first start my private lines with tbs and then I start selling them to experienced tb breeders.