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I just pinged you because I knew you would have an answer. Can you please explain why this foal has a red stat?http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2273884

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Re: Ping
Okay, so our horse's genes have a couple different factors that go into giving us the Breeder's Reports.Arabmania wrote:HelloBlackoak2 wrote:...
I just pinged you because I knew you would have an answer. Can you please explain why this foal has a red stat?http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2273884
Genes and conformation.
Though we can see the hard conformation scores of our horses (if we're upgraded), this is only a small part to the equation.
We can't actually see the hard gene scores. However, if we take the conf scores and evaluate the Breeder's Report, we can make a general guess where those gene scores sit.
So that's the basic gist. Now to why your foal came out with a red score. It's a much more simple answer, but it takes a little more to explain.
Though we can see what our horse's are showing, for both conformation and gene, using the BR and the conf scores, we can't see any of the hidden genes they might be carrying. If they were only carrying those genes we actually see, then the foals would only ever be an exact averaging of both parents. Height is a good use as an example. If this were the case (only ever showing just what they carry with no hidden genes), then a 10hh horse bred to a 20hh horse, would only ever produce a 15hh horse. But we don't get 'JUST' a 15hh horse from those two parents, we'll get anywhere from 10hh to 20hh and even shorter and taller horses than these. It's because of what those parents are hiding and not what they're showing.
So, by producing a foal with a red strength stat you can describe a number of problems, which your foal's parents likely fall into (or more than one).
1) One or both have weak genes for strength.
2) One or both have weak scores for strength.
3) They're both average for genes for strength, but the combination has just enough weakness, that it can produce a red-stat foal, thereby weakening the gene.
4) They're both average or even strong for scores for strength, but the combination of their evaluations is just enough to drop their foal into the red.
Now for the scores, we can actually look at them:
Foal strength score: 27
Money Tree strength score: 28
Academy Path strength score: 23
So these hard scores let us know that it's likely NOT the conformation that has brought down the strength stat. That leaves us with the genes.
So let's take a look at the comments:
Foal strength: Who sold you this beast? He's got no natural strength whatsoever!
Money Tree: About average strength, nothing exciting.
Academy Path: Not all horses can be strong. Unfortunately, your stallion is one of those.
If we use the comment selection, either Totina's All BR Comments guide, or Silverine's evaluation guide, we learn that although Money Tree has an average comment, Academy Path's comment is below the average line.
So this does tell us, alongside the hard conf scores, that these horses are not strong in the strength department, either from the genes or from the scores, and they barely can register as a true average in that same department. Thus producing a red-stat offspring in strength is not a far leap.
By using this red-stat foal as a breeder, you will be ensuring your strength remains weak.
There are a few different options you can take, now that you know what these parents could throw. Breed them together and only keep-to-breed a foal that tops his or her full-siblings, or don't use this pair with each other again. By breeding them to a different set of partners, you could instead strength that strength area, rather than risk lowering it.
I have used both techniques and as long as you're careful with which foals you keep-to-breed, you can achieve success.
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Re: Ping
Thats good. that explains it. I did that breeding pair randomly so I will not try that againBlackOak2 wrote:Okay, so our horse's genes have a couple different factors that go into giving us the Breeder's Reports.Arabmania wrote: Hello
I just pinged you because I knew you would have an answer. Can you please explain why this foal has a red stat?http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2273884
Genes and conformation.
Though we can see the hard conformation scores of our horses (if we're upgraded), this is only a small part to the equation.
We can't actually see the hard gene scores. However, if we take the conf scores and evaluate the Breeder's Report, we can make a general guess where those gene scores sit.
So that's the basic gist. Now to why your foal came out with a red score. It's a much more simple answer, but it takes a little more to explain.
Though we can see what our horse's are showing, for both conformation and gene, using the BR and the conf scores, we can't see any of the hidden genes they might be carrying. If they were only carrying those genes we actually see, then the foals would only ever be an exact averaging of both parents. Height is a good use as an example. If this were the case (only ever showing just what they carry with no hidden genes), then a 10hh horse bred to a 20hh horse, would only ever produce a 15hh horse. But we don't get 'JUST' a 15hh horse from those two parents, we'll get anywhere from 10hh to 20hh and even shorter and taller horses than these. It's because of what those parents are hiding and not what they're showing.
So, by producing a foal with a red strength stat you can describe a number of problems, which your foal's parents likely fall into (or more than one).
1) One or both have weak genes for strength.
2) One or both have weak scores for strength.
3) They're both average for genes for strength, but the combination has just enough weakness, that it can produce a red-stat foal, thereby weakening the gene.
4) They're both average or even strong for scores for strength, but the combination of their evaluations is just enough to drop their foal into the red.
Now for the scores, we can actually look at them:
Foal strength score: 27
Money Tree strength score: 28
Academy Path strength score: 23
So these hard scores let us know that it's likely NOT the conformation that has brought down the strength stat. That leaves us with the genes.
So let's take a look at the comments:
Foal strength: Who sold you this beast? He's got no natural strength whatsoever!
Money Tree: About average strength, nothing exciting.
Academy Path: Not all horses can be strong. Unfortunately, your stallion is one of those.
If we use the comment selection, either Totina's All BR Comments guide, or Silverine's evaluation guide, we learn that although Money Tree has an average comment, Academy Path's comment is below the average line.
So this does tell us, alongside the hard conf scores, that these horses are not strong in the strength department, either from the genes or from the scores, and they barely can register as a true average in that same department. Thus producing a red-stat offspring in strength is not a far leap.
By using this red-stat foal as a breeder, you will be ensuring your strength remains weak.
There are a few different options you can take, now that you know what these parents could throw. Breed them together and only keep-to-breed a foal that tops his or her full-siblings, or don't use this pair with each other again. By breeding them to a different set of partners, you could instead strength that strength area, rather than risk lowering it.
I have used both techniques and as long as you're careful with which foals you keep-to-breed, you can achieve success.
Did I loose you? Create more questions? Or are you good to go?
