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Inkiiy Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:17 pm Posts: 4

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Kaleidoscope


Okay, I'm a bit lost with this one. I thought she might be a palomino, but she seems to dark for that. Then I thought maybe silver bay, but she's not red enough. Anyone know what colour she is? Thanks
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Bumble_Bee Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:28 pm Posts: 105

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You're right that she's palomino. The darkness looks like it's caused by sooty to me. :)
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Katstica Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:49 am Posts: 96

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She also is carrying a silver gene that she got from her sire. So her color is Silver Sooty Palomino.
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Bumble_Bee Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:28 pm Posts: 105

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Silver isn't visible (since she's red-based) so I wouldn't put it in the color name.
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nyraeia Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:47 pm Posts: 621

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Katstica wrote:She also is carrying a silver gene that she got from her sire. So her color is Silver Sooty Palomino.
This is not necessarily true. Her sire may be heterozygous for Silver, so it's just a possibility (not a guarantee) that Kaleidoscope carries Silver.
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Katstica Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:49 am Posts: 96

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nyraeia wrote:This is not necessarily true. Her sire may be heterozygous for Silver, so it's just a possibility (not a guarantee) that Kaleidoscope carries Silver.
Based on Kaleidoscope's mane and tail color, I am pretty confident that she carries silver. A regular palomino would not have a grey mane(unless sooty can do that). It's also worth noting that both of the sire's parents carry silver, so it is possible that he is homozygous (ZZ). Even if he had heterozygous silver (Zz) it would still be a 50% chance to carry it down to the offspring.

I am still learning about genetics, so please let me know if sooty can also cause a mane to go silver, as I am not currently aware if it does or does not.

edit;; Oops! I looked at the picture of her as a newborn and can agree that she does not have silver? I am pretty sure that silver shows at birth, and she had a pure white mane at birth. Haha, genetics can be tricky. Still would like to know if sooty can change mane color though, I am curious. :)
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Aela Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:19 am Posts: 574

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Katstica wrote:
nyraeia wrote:This is not necessarily true. Her sire may be heterozygous for Silver, so it's just a possibility (not a guarantee) that Kaleidoscope carries Silver.
Based on Kaleidoscope's mane and tail color, I am pretty confident that she carries silver. A regular palomino would not have a grey mane(unless sooty can do that). It's also worth noting that both of the sire's parents carry silver, so it is possible that he is homozygous (ZZ). Even if he had heterozygous silver (Zz) it would still be a 50% chance to carry it down to the offspring.

I am still learning about genetics, so please let me know if sooty can also cause a mane to go silver, as I am not currently aware if it does or does not.

edit;; Oops! I looked at the picture of her as a newborn and can agree that she does not have silver? I am pretty sure that silver shows at birth, and she had a pure white mane at birth. Haha, genetics can be tricky. Still would like to know if sooty can change mane color though, I am curious. :)
Yes, sooty can change mane colour, and often does it :)
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Katstica Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:49 am Posts: 96

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Aela wrote:Yes, sooty can change mane colour, and often does it :)
Thank you! I learned something today. :D
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Bumble_Bee Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:28 pm Posts: 105

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Katstica wrote:I am pretty sure that silver shows at birth
Since you already got your other question answered, I just wanted to add that yes, silver does show at birth. And palomino with the silver gene would look like just plain palomino. Red-based horses (chestnut, palomino, etc) don't show silver if they have it.

If you haven't seen it already, this link is super helpful for learning genetics. I use it to double-check myself often.

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