Training

[Aela]

I have created my own "evaluation chart" for my horses.
I rate them based on the amount of red/bad/average/good/green they posses. If they have 1 red or more than 2 bads = rehoming
Then I evaluate their conformation. My new standard is less than a total of -60 = rehoming
Then I rate them based on their stars within the breed. Less than 2 stars = rehoming

(Some of them get to pass even if they do not meet my criterias, because they are special in another way (colour, etc.))

How do you evaluate conformation? I would love to add that to my toolkit.
QHF

I use the conformation tab, currently only available to premium users.

BUT... There is a chart somewhere on HWO, which I used to use as my guideline. It shows the ideal body-types for different types of competitions

Edit: Found them in Seina's guide!
http://i.imgur.com/L9QxNDw.png
http://i.imgur.com/usT9yxU.png

[Questhaven]

Thanks!
QHF

[Argent II]

It's an upgrade perk.

[Rikkiri]

I really wish training had a positive impact on breeder reports, i'm having the hardest time figuring out how to make my breeder reports more positive as well. Is there a listing anywhere that shows the positive remarks to negative remarks or advice on helping to improve them besides just trying to breed a horse with a good report to another with good report? I feel like it's kind of a guessing game

I have created my own "evaluation chart" for my horses.
I rate them based on the amount of red/bad/average/good/green they posses. If they have 1 red or more than 2 bads = rehoming
Then I evaluate their conformation. My new standard is less than a total of -60 = rehoming
Then I rate them based on their stars within the breed. Less than 2 stars = rehoming

(Some of them get to pass even if they do not meet my criterias, because they are special in another way (colour, etc.))

I've started to do the same thing with my breeding program, admittedly I'm very very slow with creating my breeds but...

I tend to do a conformation report on every horse I get and then rate it based on the negatives, my cut off is also about 60-65. Mostly, I look more towards each individual part and see which stats have been given to the horse based on it's report then note it down in their notes whether it's my "ideal" or a Good vs. Bad then try to match up a better pairing based off of those.

For example, I try desperately to find an Uphill build so my Croup Height needs to be low (which gives strength as well, so thats good). I also look for a slightly longer Back Length so I've got the movement and tempo tied in. Face Profile is still a bit of a struggle for me and I always accidentally turn out small headed horses.

As for training,

well when I first begin training I usually start right when they are a newborn using the arena/walk/lunge on the flat for 5mins til they can handle 30min intervals. Once that happens I continue doing 30min arena/walk/ lunge on the flat intervals each day til their energy runs out-thankfully this doesnt cause much fatigue so they are able to work out at the same pace the next day. I continue this process til Stamina/Tempo/Balance are above 70% (if I start training at newborn then they are about 1yr old when this process is finished) then I begin focusing on improving other stats. Getting the Stamina stat up high before working on other stats is extremely beneficial i've learned. I usually start next with Arena/Walk/collection and impulsion for 30mins which helps improve the INT and Movement stats, when INT stops acquiring a lot of percentage increases then ill train collection and impulsion a few times a day then switch over to arena/walk/loose rain for 30mins which onlys movement to improve significantly. If I want to increase Strength/Speed together I do Track/Gallop/loose rain for 30mins which allows for a substantial increase in speed. Hills/Walk/30mins pulling a cart increases strrength substantially and speed if you have not already used the track/gallop once that day. And for agility improvements i use Trail/Walk/around obstacles for 30mins. I don't compete my horses til they have at least 95% in their major discipline stats. I also usually only compete my stallions and use my mares as broodmares to help improve breeder reports, though if they do have good reports i will train/compete them. When my horses are competition ready they are usually about 8-10yrs old.

I start off with a Lunge for 5 mins at newborn and build up to 30 mins for Stamina. Once I've got the stamina to around %50 or so, that's when I start to build in my Strength and Movement stats with Hillwork or Ground Poles. That is, when I'm not being extremely lazy.

[Aela]

I've started to do the same thing with my breeding program, admittedly I'm very very slow with creating my breeds but...

I tend to do a conformation report on every horse I get and then rate it based on the negatives, my cut off is also about 60-65. Mostly, I look more towards each individual part and see which stats have been given to the horse based on it's report then note it down in their notes whether it's my "ideal" or a Good vs. Bad then try to match up a better pairing based off of those.

For example, I try desperately to find an Uphill build so my Croup Height needs to be low (which gives strength as well, so thats good). I also look for a slightly longer Back Length so I've got the movement and tempo tied in. Face Profile is still a bit of a struggle for me and I always accidentally turn out small headed horses.

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Oh yeah, I also really struggle with both Face Profile and Length (and Shoulders)! Always seem to get minus-way-too-much in those categories

[GlacierLake]

Is it even worth the time to train the horses. I have noticed that many horses with zero training are winning competitions. I am still very new to all this.

[Argent II]

Some horses are naturally better than others. I've bred some TBs who out scored 90% trained horses despite not being trained at all because they were simply higher quality horses. For lesser horses, training makes them more competitive, and for better horses, training would make them even better.

[Questhaven]

Just a quick question. I upgraded to use the confirmation feature. The cut off (50-60) people are talking about are you adding the negatives only or are you adding in the positives? still trying to figure this one out.
thanks!
QHF

[Argent II]

I assume they're counting positives as well, but it isn't a good method regardless. It sounds like they're failing to take into account that unless an attribute is necessary for the chosen discipline, it is irrelevant. Like people fussing over a racing-bred horse with a red in movement. You're going to have negative scores in some areas for various attributes. There's no getting around it because some things are mutually exclusive.

[Questhaven]

I assume they're counting positives as well, but it isn't a good method regardless. It sounds like they're failing to take into account that unless an attribute is necessary for the chosen discipline, it is irrelevant. Like people fussing over a racing-bred horse with a red in movement. You're going to have negative scores in some areas for various attributes. There's no getting around it because some things are mutually exclusive.

So I should count only the points in confirmation toward my discipline including both positives and negatives. that would be Movement, Balance, Tempo & Strength for me as I am working on dressage horses.

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