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Re: Competition project - looking for volunteers

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BlackOak2 wrote:
I have her back now. :D
Next, get your horse ready. I'll let you know in a ping on here, when the competitions are up. Until then, it's another waiting game. 8-)
Remember that a horse can NO LONGER compete in player-made competitions once they hit 20 years.
I am going with a young one. I am training up this guy, as long as I have him ready in time he'll be The Chosen One (I may have to change his name now lol) ;) He's a nice little colt but his weakness is in strength, which may hinder him in this comp.

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Re: Competition project - looking for volunteers

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AmberNW wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:
I have her back now. :D
Next, get your horse ready. I'll let you know in a ping on here, when the competitions are up. Until then, it's another waiting game. 8-)
Remember that a horse can NO LONGER compete in player-made competitions once they hit 20 years.
I am going with a young one. I am training up this guy, as long as I have him ready in time he'll be The Chosen One (I may have to change his name now lol) ;) He's a nice little colt but his weakness is in strength, which may hinder him in this comp.
With that HGP and those conf scores, I think he is a nice choice. He should definitely prove competitive. :D Sometimes we don't know if a weakness is definitely a weakness or not. That is one of the reasons I like trial-comp'ing my horses. It proves or disproves what I'm actually looking at.

Good Luck!
You may be up against some proven runners. There has been one other choice for which horse to use. So you can look back on your competition. :D
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Kamichi Stables wrote:...
I understand you'll likely be delayed in answering. I'll need to know if you're sponsoring yourself with another stable.
I received a $1 bid from another stable and since I can't keep who's stables belong to who :roll: I cannot accept a bid until I know for sure.
I can sponsor myself. No worries. Sorry for the late response, the crazy days are, hopefully, now over, and I do have a horse that seems to do pretty okay/good in sprint racing for this test. Thanks for asking though!

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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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Kamichi Stables wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:
I understand you'll likely be delayed in answering. I'll need to know if you're sponsoring yourself with another stable.
I received a $1 bid from another stable and since I can't keep who's stables belong to who :roll: I cannot accept a bid until I know for sure.
I can sponsor myself. No worries. Sorry for the late response, the crazy days are, hopefully, now over, and I do have a horse that seems to do pretty okay/good in sprint racing for this test. Thanks for asking though!

Kamichi
I was expecting a delayed response from you. You did say it wouldn't be until after the 3rd that you would be able to participate. :D

It's been switch to cross country, level 8.
For this test, I was hoping to get everybody to handle it the same way as if there were no exceptions. In that case I needed everybody to either send over a horse they no longer needed/wanted or I will send over a horse and pick it back up. I suppose it's not entirely necessary, since I have done it a few times and now have the necessary data and understand where skipping one (yours) will still needed to be added in to my data collection.

Okay. If you change your mind... I do know you're likely still busy, but for quickness sake and to make it easier for you, we can skip this single step.

I will be posting the events then before this day is out. I'll ping you and the rest when they've been posted.
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Kamichi Stables wrote: I can sponsor myself. No worries. Sorry for the late response, the crazy days are, hopefully, now over, and I do have a horse that seems to do pretty okay/good in sprint racing for this test. Thanks for asking though!

Kamichi
I was expecting a delayed response from you. You did say it wouldn't be until after the 3rd that you would be able to participate. :D

It's been switch to cross country, level 8.
For this test, I was hoping to get everybody to handle it the same way as if there were no exceptions. In that case I needed everybody to either send over a horse they no longer needed/wanted or I will send over a horse and pick it back up. I suppose it's not entirely necessary, since I have done it a few times and now have the necessary data and understand where skipping one (yours) will still needed to be added in to my data collection.

Okay. If you change your mind... I do know you're likely still busy, but for quickness sake and to make it easier for you, we can skip this single step.

I will be posting the events then before this day is out. I'll ping you and the rest when they've been posted.
In that case, I will take the horse, as I do not have a horse that would be good for this.

Sorry for changing my mind.

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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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Kamichi Stables wrote:
BlackOak2 wrote:
I was expecting a delayed response from you. You did say it wouldn't be until after the 3rd that you would be able to participate. :D

It's been switch to cross country, level 8.
For this test, I was hoping to get everybody to handle it the same way as if there were no exceptions. In that case I needed everybody to either send over a horse they no longer needed/wanted or I will send over a horse and pick it back up. I suppose it's not entirely necessary, since I have done it a few times and now have the necessary data and understand where skipping one (yours) will still needed to be added in to my data collection.

Okay. If you change your mind... I do know you're likely still busy, but for quickness sake and to make it easier for you, we can skip this single step.

I will be posting the events then before this day is out. I'll ping you and the rest when they've been posted.
In that case, I will take the horse, as I do not have a horse that would be good for this.

Sorry for changing my mind.

Kamichi
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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Kamichi Stables wrote:...
AmberNW wrote:...
Jasmine_Hanley wrote:...
Parsnip wrote:...
Kelpie wrote:...
The events have been posted. I'm hoping that the first competitions of each of these will not be entered by anybody else but you five (technically four, thank you again, Parsnip). But I do expect others to enter the other competitions, which will help with some additional data I would like to get. It's not necessary, but it would certainly help.

Alpha Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... r_id=16862

Beta Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... er_id=4660

Again, Thank You each for your assistance!
If there's a sudden change of plans from any of you, please let me know, we'll work it out. :D
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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BlackOak2 wrote: The events have been posted. I'm hoping that the first competitions of each of these will not be entered by anybody else but you five (technically four, thank you again, Parsnip). But I do expect others to enter the other competitions, which will help with some additional data I would like to get. It's not necessary, but it would certainly help.

Alpha Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... r_id=16862

Beta Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... er_id=4660

Again, Thank You each for your assistance!
If there's a sudden change of plans from any of you, please let me know, we'll work it out. :D
Is it OK if I enter my horse from my secondary account (AmberNK)? I don't want to mess you up or confuse you but my horses age so fast on this account and I didn't think about that before :lol:
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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BlackOak2 wrote:
Kamichi Stables wrote:...
AmberNW wrote:...
Jasmine_Hanley wrote:...
Parsnip wrote:...
Kelpie wrote:...
The events have been posted. I'm hoping that the first competitions of each of these will not be entered by anybody else but you five (technically four, thank you again, Parsnip). But I do expect others to enter the other competitions, which will help with some additional data I would like to get. It's not necessary, but it would certainly help.

Alpha Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... r_id=16862

Beta Event Found Here.
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... er_id=4660

Again, Thank You each for your assistance!
If there's a sudden change of plans from any of you, please let me know, we'll work it out. :D
I ended up entering this horse in my second account: http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1928516
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Re: Competition project - volunteers found

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BlackOak2 wrote:Current Volunteers (5 minimum, 10 maximum):
Kamichi Stables - Expected - invitational transfer sent/not yet received back
Horse: yet unknown

AmberNW - Sponsored - Confirmed
Horse: http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/2095278

Jasmine_Hanley - Confirmed
Horse: yet unknown

Parsnip - Confirmed - Using Own Transfer Horses
Horse: yet unknown

Kelpie - (Parsnip side account) - Confirmed
Horse: http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/375610

I added horses that have been chosen, but until actual entry, the horse can of course be changed.


Invitational paid out to: $60,033 (combined Alpha & Beta tests)
Parsnip - complete
Kelpie - complete
AmberNW - complete
Jasmine_Hanley - complete



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Test Run Date:
September 8th, 2019
Between 6:07 - 6:37 pm EST

Competition:
Cross Country - Level 8

Alpha Competition Test Set:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... r_id=16862

Beta Competition Test Set:
http://www.horseworldonline.net/competi ... er_id=4660



Okay, so I'm just about ready to publish a rather involved competition project I've been working on for awhile now.
But I'm a little hard pressed to keep my head wrapped around it, so I REALLY need to do a couple of test runs, to make sure I understand the purse mock-up's and rules I've made.
For rather straightforward reasons, I want to run these tests with horse entries that I don't own and I am hoping to get 5 separate volunteers and not two or three volunteers with 5 horses total.

So here's what I'm looking for:
--> 5 separate players (preferably)
--> 1 horse apiece to enter into a two separate full sets of 10 competitions

What I can do:
--> I can do up to 10 separate players for these two tests
--> I can do separate players for these two tests, but I'll need the same number (so if 7 for one set, then I'll need 7 for the other)

What I want to avoid:
--> Two or more horses per player (these are tests, so I'd like to get a good base number without this variable if I can)
--> A different number of players for these two tests (it would be best if I can compare these as accurately as possible)
--> Players that skip either intentionally or unintentionally any of the competitions (this will impact the test, so if you're unsure of entering any of them, please don't volunteer)
--> Game Newbie's, although I don't want to restrict newbies from volunteering, I have no guarantee that you'll hang about, so please don't volunteer if you're still just getting the lay of the land, I'd prefer players at least 6 months and older

I'm up in the air just yet on which competition type to enter, I can be flexible with what's preferred and even the level, as the level doesn't really matter. For simplicity sake, whatever competition type is decided upon (volunteers can vote on what they want), all of these competitions will take place in ONE level (so if it's sprint racing, then all of the tests will take place in Level 7, as an example). The level can also be voted upon by the volunteers.

The basic mock-up will look a little like the example below:
Sprint Racing - Level 7
Race #1 (event entry competition) - entry 20000, starting purse 3000
Race #2 - entry 2000, starting purse 5000
Race #3 - entry 2400, starting purse 6000
Race #4 - entry 2800, starting purse 7000
Race #5 - entry 3200, starting purse 8000
Race #6 - entry 4000, starting purse 10000
Race #7 - entry 4800, starting purse 12000
Race #8 - entry 5600, starting purse 14000
Race #9 - entry 6400, starting purse 16000
Race #10 - entry 8000, starting purse 20000

Race #1 entry fee is not a typo, this is the entry into the event and at the end of the event, the point system I devised will offer an additional pot winnings to all participants that enter into that first event entry competition. This is above and beyond whatever earnings come in from the basic competitions themselves. If the test proves my work, each entrant into the event will earn back 'at least' 25% of their original event entry fee (in this case, the 20,000 entry fee will be returning 5000).

There's a lot more in it, but I need to make sure there's no kinks left over before final publishing.

I will be running this test a little differently then what I'll suggest SHOULD be run under some assumptions, first, I am expecting to take a loss on these two tests. I'm prepared for that. My mock-up tells me as much. Second, the volunteers are pledging that they will not miss entering even a single competition. Third, I'll run these two tests back to back, to get them over and done with in short order so I can see what I might have missed or what might not add up correctly. And lastly, I can't run these tests until I have my five volunteers. So I'm hoping that whoever does decide to do so, will be able to fulfill the obligation they're promising to fulfill.

As for the fees, the example I posted above will be the fees and purses I will be using.

Now for the difference between the two tests:
One will be the Alpha Class test and the other is the Beta Class test. The differences is that one is partially supported by additional entry fees by the event participants.
Such as, the Alpha Class will actually NOT pay any additional entry fees into the competitions beyond the event entry fee (the money for each successive entry is given to the event participants in the form of the 'invitational horse', since we can't send money to another player yet on HWO). In this case, I'll just forward you the entry fees in total before any of the competitions actually run, this is the exception and hinges on the pledge and promise that my volunteers won't miss entering any of the competitions.
Beta Class, however, will still pay a partial entry fee into each competition. The end purse is still the same as Alpha Class, but there is less potential loss on the part of the hosting player. But with this, I will also forward the total entry fee in the form of the 'invitational event'.

So that I'm not loosing anybody just yet, each Alpha Class entrant will receive $39,200 to cover the entry fees into the event. Each Beta Class entrant will receive $20,833, that covers about a third of the total entry fees combined.

Once I get my 5 volunteers, we'll work on what competition and what level should be chosen. So please indicate what you would prefer, just alpha test, just beta test, both and also the competition and level. Also, if you have certain days upcoming that you WON'T be around (for whatever reason) I can also work around that (really as long as you can enter and get the horse entered and also accept the 'invitational horse', you don't need to be in attendance during the actual test, for obvious reasons).
As a last note, trained horses are NOT necessary, even the same horse, is NOT necessary, I will be running these tests purely on player entry, so also, if you are a volunteer, try to only enter just one of your horses into these tests. If you do enter a second one by mistake, you'll need to let me know which horse I should be following.

I am also hoping and will make note in the competition heading, that the very first competition won't be entered into by any who are NOT volunteers... that will also throw a wrench in my test. :mrgreen:

Do any of you need additional details? I can certainly give them, but this is getting a bit long as it is. :D
I'm a bit confused: what is it that you are testing?

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