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[buzzy]

http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1951506 (Sooty Buckskin)


http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1944438 (Bay Roan with a Blanket Appaloosa Pattern)

Following up...
The first two I agree with.

These two are semi-correct.
She is indeed a sooty buckskin, but she also has dun (the striped legs give it away) and tiger eye.

This last one is also correct, with one exception. This mare is a bay with Lp, but is not a roan, rather this is varnish from Lp. However, there are some people that will call Lp varnish 'roan' meaning the same gene.

I was so close to putting the last one as bay, but I talked myself out of it lol! So for the buckskin would you put "Sooty Dun with Tiger Eye"?

[BlackOak2]

I was so close to putting the last one as bay, but I talked myself out of it lol! So for the buckskin would you put "Sooty Dun with Tiger Eye"?

Personally, I don't indicate sooty, but only because I don't breed for it, or breed it out... When it gets really strong, though I won't name it as part of the color, I will call them something like pseudo-black. She's not dark enough to be a pseudo-black buckskin though. I'd end up naming her buckskin dun with tiger eye.
I end up naming them so that the relevant genes are easily known, especially when we get the cryptics mixed in. And actually, I recommend naming the colors the best way to suite personal breeding and preferences. Something that helps them to understand and see what they need, at a glance.

If you ever want an apprentice let me know!

How do you mean, apprentice?
I certainly know the definition, of course.
But what are you looking for?

[buzzy]

I was so close to putting the last one as bay, but I talked myself out of it lol! So for the buckskin would you put "Sooty Dun with Tiger Eye"?

Personally, I don't indicate sooty, but only because I don't breed for it, or breed it out... When it gets really strong, though I won't name it as part of the color, I will call them something like pseudo-black. She's not dark enough to be a pseudo-black buckskin though. I'd end up naming her buckskin dun with tiger eye.
I end up naming them so that the relevant genes are easily known, especially when we get the cryptics mixed in. And actually, I recommend naming the colors the best way to suite personal breeding and preferences. Something that helps them to understand and see what they need, at a glance.

If you ever want an apprentice let me know!

How do you mean, apprentice?
I certainly know the definition, of course.
But what are you looking for?

So basically on how I like to indicate my color? I usually don't particularly breed for the sooty either, it just shows up along many of my lines. And by an apprentice, I mean someone to show me the deeper concepts of genes and color. I have a small understanding of basic color and the breeding aspects.

[BlackOak2]

So basically on how I like to indicate my color? I usually don't particularly breed for the sooty either, it just shows up along many of my lines. And by an apprentice, I mean someone to show me the deeper concepts of genes and color. I have a small understanding of basic color and the breeding aspects.

I can certainly help you along those lines.
I'm not great on the dilutions, however, I've gotten a lot better recently at recognizing the differences.
We can certainly move you forward in your learning.

So we can start with some questions for you to consider and answer.
There are three main color concepts for horses.
Of these three main colors, one is broken down into three distinct yet related coloration.
Can you name them?

[buzzy]

So basically on how I like to indicate my color? I usually don't particularly breed for the sooty either, it just shows up along many of my lines. And by an apprentice, I mean someone to show me the deeper concepts of genes and color. I have a small understanding of basic color and the breeding aspects.

I can certainly help you along those lines.
I'm not great on the dilutions, however, I've gotten a lot better recently at recognizing the differences.
We can certainly move you forward in your learning.

So we can start with some questions for you to consider and answer.
There are three main color concepts for horses.
Of these three main colors, one is broken down into three distinct yet related coloration.
Can you name them?

Alright, I believe I have the three...
1. Bay
2. Chestnut
3. Gray
These are the basic modifiers for extensions right?

[BlackOak2]

I can certainly help you along those lines.
I'm not great on the dilutions, however, I've gotten a lot better recently at recognizing the differences.
We can certainly move you forward in your learning.

So we can start with some questions for you to consider and answer.
There are three main color concepts for horses.
Of these three main colors, one is broken down into three distinct yet related coloration.
Can you name them?

Alright, I believe I have the three...
1. Bay
2. Chestnut
3. Gray
These are the basic modifiers for extensions right?

Perhaps I didn't word the question correctly.
There are three basic colors that any horse will be, in other words, a horse MUST be one of these bases (at least here on HWO). I won't offer white, since that's a pool-full-of-worms.
The three basic colors are black, chestnut and agouti.
Agouti is further broken down into wild bay, bay and brown.

By figuring out what base the horse has, it will offer further insight into what the horse's modifiers are. These modifiers change the base coat from it's original color.

Black is black. If it's not black, then it's not black. This base is quite simple.
Chestnut is the absence of black. What this means is chestnut is weaker then black, it's recessive to black.

(Actually, I suppose I didn't offer it right, in reality there are only two bases to horses, black and red. But again, that opens an entire other can of worms and at least here on HWO, it's not necessary.)

Agouti works on top of black, which means that it needs a black coat to show itself.

So the bases work like this:
Chestnut over Agouti
Agouti over Black
Black over Chestnut

Using the above formula, you can understand the gene concept that controls them.
Can you figure it out now?
If you use 'e' to indicate chestnut
If you use 'E' to indicate black
If you use A to indicate agouti
And remember, there are two alleles to each color gene.

[Sawd10]

Hello, I cannot quite find the right color for this horse, could you please help me? Here is the link to the horse, you may look at the pictures, too. It is still a little young, but I would love to have at least a brief idea of what her color might be. http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1860069

I have one other horse that I am not quite sure about either. I think I have a little idea, but still, to be on the safe since he is a contest prize. http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1889602



These are both prizes, so that is why I need to know their color. Thank you!

[buzzy]

Alright, I believe I have the three...
1. Bay
2. Chestnut
3. Gray
These are the basic modifiers for extensions right?

Perhaps I didn't word the question correctly.
There are three basic colors that any horse will be, in other words, a horse MUST be one of these bases (at least here on HWO). I won't offer white, since that's a pool-full-of-worms.
The three basic colors are black, chestnut and agouti.
Agouti is further broken down into wild bay, bay and brown.

By figuring out what base the horse has, it will offer further insight into what the horse's modifiers are. These modifiers change the base coat from it's original color.

Black is black. If it's not black, then it's not black. This base is quite simple.
Chestnut is the absence of black. What this means is chestnut is weaker then black, it's recessive to black.

(Actually, I suppose I didn't offer it right, in reality there are only two bases to horses, black and red. But again, that opens an entire other can of worms and at least here on HWO, it's not necessary.)

Agouti works on top of black, which means that it needs a black coat to show itself.

So the bases work like this:
Chestnut over Agouti
Agouti over Black
Black over Chestnut

Using the above formula, you can understand the gene concept that controls them.
Can you figure it out now?
If you use 'e' to indicate chestnut
If you use 'E' to indicate black
If you use A to indicate agouti
And remember, there are two alleles to each color gene.

Ah ok. I believe I understand now where the genes come from and believe I can solve the codes...I will at least try!
Chestnut over Agouti: eA
Agouti over black: AE
Black over Chestnut: Ae

So these are the basic per say "codes" for the genes of the colors?

[honeybunny]

Ping

Have fun!
http://www.horseworldonline.net/horse/profile/1910354

[BlackOak2]

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That's a good start and you're beginning to get it! You offered the 'over' or stronger gene code first.

Black is defined by both: Ee and also EE
Chestnut is defined by: ee
Agouti is defined by the following:
EE A_
Ee A_

(because agouti must be paired with the black in order to show itself)

So now you understand the most basic of bases. If you can figure out the base horse color, it will automatically decide which colors it CANNOT be. For instance, if it's a black base, you know instantly that the horse cannot have a gene like flaxen, so a lighter colored mane and tail must be from a gene like silver.

These following questions will be a little more difficult, keep in mind that they're all the three base colors, but now I'll be adding in the agouti sub-categories.

Your additional codes are as follows:
Wild Bay = A+
Bay = A
Brown = At
Agouti negative (no agouti) = a

Name the following base colors:
EE
Ee
ee

EE aa
ee aa

Ee A+A+
ee AtAt

EE AA


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